TVD 1912: Does it always comes down to the love of a brother?

[x5vale]

HAPPY WEEKEND and HAPPY SPN DAY FLIST!

TVD made me super super happy!!!








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-Alaric is alive, of course. People was freaking out about Davis leaving the show..I don't see this happening anytime soon.

-Damon being Alaric best friend!!! *loves*

-Elena was harsh on Damon, seriously...maybe a little too much but she was right...if Damon keeps pushing away everybody, he would end up alone. And he doesn't deserve it.
On Elena's part...Damon was being so cocky and snarky I would have slapped him myself.

-Flashbacks: it's pretty clear that Stefan missed Damon and that Damon was still hurt, but deep down they wanted to be together again. They have so many issues to work through.

-Damon and Rebekah exchanging sexy looks...me likes!

-So much Damon/Stefan...they will get there eventually...they are so close to re-bond.

-Meredith is obsessed...seriously. She must have some hidden agenda.

-Can I have more Damon/Stefan/Rebekah? D/E/S is about love, but D/S/R is about lust, double-cross, teaming up, being vampires, distrust...it's more fun!

-"Judgy"!!! LOL, very judgy Stefan...

-Let's try not to judge Damon/Sage from a human point of view. Of course hearing her saying that women are not just for food, but for pleasure was all kind of wrong...but they are vampires, they have needs and they can decide how to make it work for themselves. So I am not bothered at all.

-Stefan is a little edgy...

-Sage was in love with Finn...omg he's the only Original I really don't like. Could have it been Kol?

-Oh wow Damon was back...in his own way he is helping his brother and Rebekah is tagging along.

-Damon is pushing Stefan so hard, because he needs to learn how to control his craving for blood. He just needs this, he needs self acceptance and to be able to control himself and his needs.

-Bad timing ever Elena. I don't even know whether she was more disgusted with Stefan or Damon...but she will get over it quicly.

-Oh Stefan please..please...it's because he loves you, he did this to you. He is helping you...little brother.

-Elena...she loves vampires because they can never die...and what she says about Damon? She basically said that she loves Damon without saying it...but Matt said it for her and said it about himself. Oh Matt, I love you so much.

-So basically the point is that Damon can control himself since forever, while Stefan has never been able too. While Stefan was the one to turn Damon, Damon was the one who kinda started the ripper path for Stefan. Don't get me wrong, Stefan is totally responsible for his actions and his choices, but I am pretty sure Damon feels responsible for not being there to help his little brother and now he is trying to amend. To be there for his brother. To be Stefan big brother, so that Stefan can heal and find that self acceptance he so desperately needs.

-BONDING...OMG OMG BONDING....Damon...Stefan...this is all about them. No Elena, none but themselves and their being brothers....awwwwww my boys, my awesome, screwed brothers!!!

-Damon and the piano....*thud*

-The boys teaming up and working together.

-Oh something is really really wrong with Alaric's ring...

Characters.

-Alaric and Alaric&Damon
He is the killer, apparentely. The ring is controlling him. That's a nice twist. Not a real shock (because I don't get easily shocked), but I didn't see this coming, not that way. Btw Damon was right in 3.04 when he said that something was wrong with Ric's ring.
Now I hope Alaric let his friends help him. I was happy to see that the one who was called when he got jailed was Damon. Ric might still have this annoying attitude towards Damon and vampires, but he does love him.

-Meredith
So she connected the dots and understood that it was Alaric behind all the deaths. Still on the fence on her character, but I liked her better.

-Matt and Matt&Elena
I just love this guy. He has lost pretty much everyone he loves but he is still the most awesome friend Elena can hope to have. He was just there listening to her, comforting her and not judging her because she loves vampires.

-Sage
I liked her. She is a real BAMF! Now if people get started to complain because she taught Damon how to feed with pleasure, I'll start screaming...the same people who keep saying that Eljiah and Klaus are the best characters ever..as they have never killed people...double standard much? oh well none is on my flist, luckily. Btw missed the Originals bros (everyone but Finn).
Back to Sage, I want to know more about her and her relationship with Damon.

-Rebekah
She is awesome. Witty, cocky, badass. She's also in desperate need to have someone who cares and loves her. She needs attention and tender loving care.
I loved her interaction with the Salvatores and all the dialogues between her and Damon.

-Elena and Damon&Elena
I think Elena is really starting to question her feelings. She was harsh on Damon, but she hit the mark and I think she pushed him to understand what he really needs right now. I still think she has no right to be mad at Damon and I don't think she is, but I understand the rift between them. Both of them think the other has given up, both of them know their feelings are all there and they need to find a way to deal with them. A healthy way, which includes dealing with Stefan.

-Stefan and Stefan&Damon
How much do I love the little brother? Too much. Seriously. I loved him in every scene in this episode. I loved the flashbacks. How he tried to re-bond with Damon, how he completely lost it when DAMON pushed him to drink human blood again, how he ran away and refused his brother's help. The look on Damon's face when he realized that Stefan was not able to control his fury broke me. Damon was scared and worried at the same time. Most likely, he also felt guilty for being the one who pushed his brother to become the Ripper. As I have already said, Stefan is the one responsible for his actions, as much as Damon is for his, but in the parallel between Stefan turning Damon and Damon pushing Stefan to drink human blood again, each brother has good reasons to feel guilty for screwing up with the other.
So this episode was all about them remembering and bonding again. Find a way to feel that affection they used to have for each other.
Everything Damon did in this episode in the present was made to save Stefan, because as Elena said, it's their love for each other that will keep them alive. I am glad that Stefan fought the hunger because he didn't want to fight Damon. I am glad he came back with the journal. It was his way to tell Damon that he had understood and that he wanted to be helped, he wanted to be brothers again, not only two people who happen to share part of their life.

-Damon and Damon&Stefan.
Damon loves. Period. He has done more declaration of love in this season than in all his life. He started with Alaric, then he told Elena out loud, then to Stefan. He is honest about his feelings and despite everything, he talks about them.
As Plec said, the beauty of Damon is that it doesn't matter how much he tries to step back, when someone needs him , he just can't help and comes back. This is why for me Damon is the core of the show. He keeps everyone together.
What he did for his brother was awesome. What he did say to Stefan was priceless. Stefan needs his big brother and Damon has finally arrived to the point where he can let his anger go and he can be what he used to be, just the brother Stefan wants and needs.
This is such a huge step for Damon.
He doesn't need to stop drinking human's blood. He is a vampire, he lives with it. He doesn't deny it. Here Damon is a step ahead of Stefan. Damon might not like who he is, but he accepts it. Stefan is not there yet.
What Damon needs to learn is that love doesn't mean being self destructive. Love brings happiness and trust, not fear and darkness. Damon needs to learn how to love healtly. He needs to understand that he is worth to be loved because he is a valuable person. Self-respect it's what Damon needs to learn.


Oh show, I LOVE YOU! I don't even care I thought it would have been more focused on the flashbacks and how Damon became who he was...I mean what they showed was enough for me. The brotherly relationship is what I want on screen all the time :))))

Comments

[kros-21.livejournal.com]

omg Vale, I haven't seen the episode yet but I couldn't help see your gif and I can't believe he said that!!! so cute!!!!!!!

I'll be back with comments when I have seen the ep! :)

[x5vale.livejournal.com]

I wait for you. You will be overwhelmed with brotherly love.

Sorry if I spoiled you.

[kros-21.livejournal.com]

okay watched it.

Finalmente un episodio che riguarda solo loro due e la loro relazione e in cui Elena non c'entra niente. EVVAI!. LOL

Il pezzo con Damon nel salone mi ha fatto diventare un budino dentro.... ç______ç
però non capisco una cosa. Che test ha cercato di fare Damon? Perchè sia nel passato che nel presente ha praticamente spinto Stefan a bere human blood quando lui non lo avrebbe fatto di sua iniziativa e poi si è sorpreso quando Stefan non è riuscito a fermarsi. Ma perchè glielo fa bere to begin with? tipo, gli vuole insegnare la moderazione ma Stefan stava scegliendo l'astinenza completa....... tu che dici?

[x5vale.livejournal.com]

La chiave di tutto è la moderazione. Il problema di Stefan è che non ha mai saputo controllarsi. Ogni volta che si è privato del sangue umano e poi ha ceduto (come un drogato, solo che per un vampiro il sangue umano è necessario) Stefan è andato totalmente fuori controllo. Damon vuole fare due cose: aiutare il fratello e fare ammenda visto che, acciecato dall'odio non lo aveva mai fatto e quindi essere suo fratello maggiore, e poi aiutarlo a tenere il suo istinto sotto controllo.

Poichè il punto è che prima o poi un vampiro viene tentato dal bere il sangue umano, e l'astinenza è difficilissima da attuare, allora è meglio saper controllare le proprie reazioni...ecco cosa vuole insegnare Damon a Stefan. Bere sangue non significa uccidere o andare fuori di testa.

Credo che Damon nel passato si sia sorpreso perchè quando se ne era andato nel 1864 aveva lasciato Stefan con Lexi e probabilmente credeva che Stefan avesse imparato a controllarsi, cosa che invece non ha fatto. Con il passare degli anni e avendo superato l'odio, Damon ha fatto quello che per esempio Dean ha sempre fatto per Sam...ha protetto, aiutato e guidato suo fratello e Stefan ha capito.

[kros-21.livejournal.com]

capisco, quindi praticamente siccome Damon pensa che l'astinenza completa non sia possibile o che cmq prima o poi ci ricaschi sempre, è meglio imparare a controllarsi e fermarsi al momento giusto.
Beh, spero che Damon sia lì per Stefan come ha promesso allora. Onestamente, anche ho sempre pensato che lo Stefan "buono" era noioso, questo Stefan "non sento niente, non mi importa di niente" è unsettling. Quindi sono contenta che sembra che ne stia uscendo...

[x5vale.livejournal.com]

Proprio così...diciamo che Stefan ha sempre negato la sua natura, ma più la sopprimeva, più quando usciva fuori era pericolosa...allora meglio imparare a controllarsi. Damon in questo è un passo avanti e aiuterà suo fratello, come è giusto che sia.

Io voglio una Stefan moderato, non uno che passi da un estremo all'altro.

[oanaspn.livejournal.com]

This epi was so awesome! Such interesting, unexpected turns. Matt is one of the most awesome friends anyone could have and Damon...love what you said about him, wich is very true: "Damon needs to learn how to love healtly. He needs to understand that he is worth to be loved because he is a valuable person. Self-respect it's what Damon needs to learn". After so much time when Damon accused Stefan (on good reason) and wouldn't be there for his little brother going on a killing rampage, he finally learned to forgive him, accept and be the support his younger bro always needed. I loved so much their bonding this epi:)...Alaric, wow! Haven't seen that coming, huh. Missed Caroline though, but we had charming, snarky Rebekah, hehe. Really enjoyed this epi. Happy SPN day and happy weekend, darling. Gosh, can't wait for SPN!:))

[x5vale.livejournal.com]

I am so happy Damon left all the anger behind. I think that he really meant what he told Elena on his deathbed..he spent years blaming Stefan (and he had reasons to) and forgot about how much his brother was important for him...now he is healing and he is back to be the big brother.

I love Caroline, last season she used to be my second favorite character; this season she is still awesome but someway she has lost her magic..anyway it's always a pleasure to see her.

[skinscript.livejournal.com]

On Damon and Ripper!Stefan:

Stefan was Ripper!Stefan from the very beginning in Mystic Falls; Lexi pulled him back and got him off human blood. I don't think Damon pushed Stefan into becoming 'the Ripper' so much as he pushed him off the wagon into that particular decade-long bloodbath, and into the cycle of murder and self-hatred since. The Ripper was in Stefan from the moment he turned.

The part I find most interesting about this ripper storyline is that, in fact, that potential had to have been there even before he turned, since vampires are themselves only amplified. What would Stefan have become, if he'd been the one to go to war instead of Damon?

[x5vale.livejournal.com]

I have just finished to re-read Being 493 and Being 494. OMG how do I miss those times hon...now I want to read your TVD ones.

I do agree that Stefan was the ripper since the very beginning and it was the reason Damon left. Damon couldn't handle who he was and certainly he couldn' deal with a crazy brother...but I do think Damon felt responsible or letting Stefan walk away. Damon was full of hate back then and he kinda wanted to punish Stefan. I think that through the years and espcially after the events of 2.22, he realized that his brother needed help and that he was ready to give it to him.

I also agree about the fact that Stefan was darker than Damon even during their human lives...I do think war could have affected him very in a very dangerous way.

[skinscript.livejournal.com]

I thought I replied to this days ago!

I miss those times, too! I don't have much TVD, though I think you'd like 'The Message' best out of the ones I do have.

I agree, Damon ultimately felt responsible for letting Stefan go instead of interrupting him. I think the show's hinted that Damon shadowed Stefan for the years that he was off the wagon.

I don't really like the explanation of how Damon gave up being ... well, a martyr for love. Seriously, Sage says a couple of sentences and changes his whole persona? Doesn't really make sense, unless she actually compelled him. She might have been able to, being 900 years old to his 50 at the time.

Still loving this show, plot holes aside!

[x5vale.livejournal.com]

I do think there's more than that and they showed only how she was the trigger.

Plot holes are everywhere, I guess it's pretty much impossible to avoid when the writers are more than a couple.

[a-phoenixdragon.livejournal.com]

~Driveby hugs!!~

[x5vale.livejournal.com]

*hugs back*

DOc is on hiatus over here. Waiting for new season to start!

[a-phoenixdragon.livejournal.com]

RIGHT?! It'll be coming back around the Fall...CANNOT WAIT OMFG!!

[brightstarmara.livejournal.com]

Loved the brothers stuff. I don't think Damon started Stefan's ripper part though. He was like that before Lexi. And after. He can't control himself. If he could, he wouldn't have made Damon turn.

What I wonder about it why Meredith was protecting Alaric the whole time. And... is Jeremy's ring going to make him go nuts too?!

It wsa an ok epi to me. No real shockers. I was expecting big stuff because at that panel they said there were going to be huge things.

[x5vale.livejournal.com]

I don't think it neither. The ripper was there since the beginning, but after a hiatus, if I can call it so, Damon pushed Stefan over the edge and he didn't realize how uncontrollable Stefan was.

Thinking about Jeremy's ring as well. I guess we have to wait to learn more about this story. not sure about Meredith, I don't particularly trust her.

I think the huge thing was the one about Alaric, but I think that the more relevant thing of the whole episode was Damon's growth. His words to Stefan, everything he did for Stefan was a huge thing, character growth wise.

[roselani24.livejournal.com]

This was a great episode!! :D

Much agreement and love for your postie on it. Damon was just awesome! We've seen glimpses of the big brother in Damon, but this is the first time he has fully acted on those brotherly feelings and not tried to hide it. And your gifs of that scene between Damon and Stefan just sums it up!

One thing I slightly disagree with, was Elena telling Damon if he keeps pushing people away he's going to wind up alone. Foremost, the only character Damon is pushing away, so far, is Elena. And rightly so in my opinion as she is pushing away too, and a lot harder. Damon was very protective of Ric at the beginning, but also respectful enough of Liz to not get directly involved in the situation (Liz was the second most awesome in the episode aside from the Team Salvatore). Instead he was multi-tasking by involving Stefan in helping him solve the old murders and deal with the blood lust. Definitely not pushing them away. Also, this whole season has been about Damon gradually letting go of his anger at his brother and reconnecting with him. Stefan has been pushing Damon away, but Damon hasn't been pushing Stefan away. At least not that I can recall at the moment.

I think Elena was projecting by saying that because she just came from a conversation with Matt about Bonnie still being upset and not wanting to talk to her yet. Elena's biggest fear right now, or one of her biggest I should say, is winding up alone because she can't let people go. She's afraid they'll die and with the threat of the Originals, and the Salvatores themselves, the possibility is really there. Its a natural fear after the losses she has suffered and since she's the Denial Queen (and 18 with no consistent mother model) she's not dealing so well.

Just my opinion. :)

Sidenote: I agree that Damon's snarky, cocky attitude certainly called for a slap though!

Damon playing the piano...*flails* Oh my! I can't even...its soo strange! I borrowed my neighbors Smallville Season 3 DVDs after learning Ian was in them and watched those episodes (and I laugh every time I think how Jensen was on Smallville too the very next season and both later grew to take the main roles of two big supernatural based shows). In one of those episode he was playing the piano and Lex's manor! And I thought to myself, 'I bet Damon plays! There's the big ol piano at the Salvatore Boarding house. Stefan plays guitar, so why can't Damon play the piano? And then lo and behold, there's a scene where he's playing the piano!! :D
tbc

[x5vale.livejournal.com]

he has fully acted on those brotherly feelings and not tried to hide it.
I melted, seriously.

And rightly so in my opinion as she is pushing away too, and a lot harder.
Remember that Elena often sticks with the easy path...she knows Damon has some issues in showing his feeling and she sticks with the idea that Damon doesn't want to be tied up in a serious relationship. plus she is only 18 and she is trying to figure out what her feelings are. I think that if she hadn't seen him with Rebekah, she would have reacted in another way. So everything she is doing, she is doing out of jealousy imo..she is not aware of it yet.

Damon is not the one who goes around telling everyone how he loves to save people (see Matt...), so of course he denied his involvment in helping Ric and Elensa reaction was childish, but normal in that kind of situation I think.

(Liz was the second most awesome in the episode aside from the Team Salvatore).
so much love or her. Shame on me because I didn't mention her in my post.

Definitely not pushing them away. Also, this whole season has been about Damon gradually letting go of his anger at his brother and reconnecting with him.
WORD! Damon is healing.

Stefan has been pushing Damon away
right, but he is starting to let him in. I loved when he came back offering his help and his reply to Damon ironic comment. I loved how he changed his attitude and accepted that Damon was there, for him.

Elena's biggest fear right now, or one of her biggest I should say, is winding up alone because she can't let people go.
Elena is terrified to be abandoned. Her birthmother let her, her parents died, John and Jenna too. Jeremy is gone.She told Matt that when she met Stefan, she was reassured by the fact that he was almost immortal. Your analysis is spot on and I honestly can't blame her...her life sucks.

Just my opinion. :)
Which I agree with btw :)

About the piano and Ian/Jensen parallel...Jensen played the piano for real in a Dark Angel episode..just saying...

[roselani24.livejournal.com]

Re Elena's jealousy
I agree. What I was trying and failing to say, lol, was she was the instigator of the distance between her and Damon. Damon's only accommodating her wishes and then she's like hey, stop pushing me away! Silly girl.

Damon is not the one who goes around telling everyone how he loves to save people (see Matt...), so of course he denied his involvment in helping Ric and Elensa reaction was childish, but normal in that kind of situation I think
So true! Its just kind of odd that Elena doesn't recognize this by now on some scale. Maybe she can't quite see it because Damon has always made it clear he's going to protect her whether she wants him to or not.

About the piano and Ian/Jensen parallel...Jensen played the piano for real in a Dark Angel episode..just saying...

Oh, I KNOW! *squee!!!!* That was my first episode of 'Dark Angel' and I adored Jensen in it! :D I watched most of Season 2 then just to watch him, hehe. Jensen and music make me giddy! Especially his singing...*melts* :D

[x5vale.livejournal.com]

I also think Damon obviously think low of himself and with Stefan back, he is stepping away because it's easier like that. He's used to be considered the bad guy and he sticks with it.

[roselani24.livejournal.com]

part 2 (gotta lot to say, I guess, lol) :)

Just wanted to speculate about the Gilbert rings and the effect they have on Ric and the late Samantha Gilbert.

It seems the ring doesn't have any immediate side effects along the lines of black outs and loss time, but rather after repeated 'deaths' starts to have that effect. I say that because Uncle John Gilbert didn't suffer such effects, to our knowledge, of that kind before his death. Ancestor Jonathon Gilbert didn't seem immediately effected either, going crazy later in life as he became obsessed and a drunkard. Its unclear however, if one reversed death is enough to cause this. My personal opinion is that it results after multiple prevented deaths. Either way, for Samantha Gilbert to be the murderer in 1912, she had to have died a minimum of once before Damon killed her following Sage's advice anyway.

Using Ric as my template of the ring's effects, I'd say the major effects of death and resurrection really starts to occur after the fourth death. Hopefully I'm recalling this right. That's when Damon noted that the ring brought Ric back incredibly slowly (3x04). His next death, was death via car driven by a Hybrid. Damon's blood was notably needed to help Ric heal because the ring brought him back but didn't heal him of the injuries. That is possibly due to the fact he was hit by a car, not supernatural, that was driven by a supernatural creature.

Its after that death that the first murder occurs. The medical examiner. Next,Bill Forbes is stabbed and he goes into transition and chooses to die. Then Ric apparently stabs himself and wanders the house in a bloodied daze before collapsing. Meredith says Ric came at her with a knife and that's why she shot him. She then healed him with vamp blood (like to know where she got that blood tho cause the blood she stole from Damon was used to save Bill Forbes initially). Either way, the deterioration of the ring wearer rapidly progresses after the fourth death. The craziness that may have been reserved for later in life like Jonathan Gilbert occurs much sooner. Notably, Jonathan Gilbert doesn't seem to have gone on a killing spree like his granddaughter did, which again goes back to my theory of it being multiple death/resurrections that cause the person to 'go crazy' or lose their grip on reality as it were.

Continuing in that vein, it makes sense to me that the number of people killed would be concurrent with the number of times the ring-wearer died. That would retain the balance of nature as the witches call it. They are living and for balance to be maintained someone else must die to fill the void even if they were originally meant to live. "Appointment in Samara" from SPN season 6 is a good example of this.
I can't recall how many other council members died in 1912 aside from Zach Salvatore, but one thing I find interesting is that apparently after Damon drank Samantha dry, she came back and didn't start killing again. At least that we know of. Don't recall if there were any further deaths asides from the Lockwood lady Stefan kills. Which makes me wonder if Lockwood's death acted as the balance and that was why Samantha did not kill again...that we know of. She was notably still losing time and blacking out in her journal so who knows.

Right, this has gotten super rambly. Hope it makes sense. I've been real sick all week and my brain's all muddled.

Happy SPN Friday! :D Dean/Jensen will be a welcome sight on my screen.

[x5vale.livejournal.com]

I say that because Uncle John Gilbert didn't suffer such effects, to our knowledge, of that kind before his death.
I think you are right. It's like the ring consumes its power and affects people after some deaths.

That's when Damon noted that the ring brought Ric back incredibly slowly (3x04).
Exactly.


I love how you summarized the whole Ric story line. Wondering where Meredith took the blood from too...unless she had some Damon's one stored somewhere.
I agree that it depends on how many times you have cheated the death...I would like to know how this ring works and which is the spell behind it.

That would retain the balance of nature as the witches call it. They are living and for balance to be maintained someone else must die to fill the void even if they were originally meant to live. "Appointment in Samara" from SPN season 6 is a good example of this.
While I was reading your theory about the balance I thought about _Faith and Appointment in Samarra too. I guess we do share a brain and yay for colliding fandoms!


I hope you feel better...your ramblings are always welcomed. I am actually happy to talk to you on weekly basis. I love your thoughts.

[roselani24.livejournal.com]

I love how you summarized the whole Ric story line. Thanks! :)
Wondering where Meredith took the blood from too...unless she had some Damon's one stored somewhere.
Hmm, I don't think it was Damon's. She only had time to get the one vial and she used it all on Bill. So whose blood was it? Part of the mystery that's Meredith that I don't trust.

While I was reading your theory about the balance I thought about _Faith and Appointment in Samarra too. I guess we do share a brain and yay for colliding fandoms!

Lol! I guess we do. Yay indeed!! <3 SPN and TVD!

*hugs* Thanks for the well wishes, hon. :) I'm feeling much better today.

*Smishes* Lol, I'm glad you enjoy my ramblings in answer to your ramblings/thoughts. I'm enjoying talking with you too!

Hope you have a wonderful rest of the day.

[x5vale.livejournal.com]

No I know it wasn't Damon's...dunno, she is misterious.

[ann-tara.livejournal.com]

Okay, going to try and jump in here in an attempt to get back into the swing of LJ things - though I did tweet a little while watching the episode last night, which I very much enjoyed.

Except for the whole set-up with Meredith, which still doesn't make much sense since we didn't see Ric pull a knife on her, and she's the one who came right out and said, "I wish you hadn't seen that". And then Elena and Matt do discover her secret room and files - so she can't possibly be all upfront here. Plus, if she knows the ring is harming Ric, why does she kill him again, making matters worse! Sorry, but I still don't trust her.

After reading the post-ep articles and seeing the link from one to an earlier article about the actor signing on for a CW Pilot, I am getting the gut-wrenching feeling that they may be setting up Ric to die. *sob* Doesn't mean they have to, or that he still can't return next season if the Pilot doesn't go to series. But, I dunno, I have a sinking feeling. :(

I loved hearing Stefan describe Ric as Damon's "best friend", though. Confirmation that it's not just fans who are well aware of the relationship. :)

I liked Cassidy's portrayal of Sage, but I was disappointed she really didn't factor into the episode as much as I thought she would. But she shows up next week, so hopefully we'll get more goodness with her. This show does a much better job overall casting for female guest-stars and semi-regulars than SPN does, that's for sure (though today's SPN casting spoiler was a cool one).

Elena very much did admit that she has feelings for Damon too with the statement that he'd gotten under her skin. I think she's going to follow in her vampy ancestor's footsteps and essentially love them both.

I loved everything about the Damon/Stefan interaction last night, both in flashbacks and the present timeline. It's become increasingly clearer to me as the show has progressed that they do alternately love and hate each other, as real brothers would do, but that they will always have each other's backs. It's a true for better or worse bond these guys have, and that was beautifully played out last night. Loving it!

Poor Matt - he's such a good guy, possibly the best all around person in Mystic Falls. He deserves some legitimate long-standing happiness at some point in this series life.

I love every time the show does flashbacks, because they really do them so well - it's probably their greatest strength.

All in all, an excellent episode, even though I fear for Ric and still don't trust Meredith.

[x5vale.livejournal.com]

On Meredith: I don't trust her neither, but I liked the twist about Ric..this would explain is attitude during this season, which I haven't been a fan of.

on Ric dying: Matt Davis tweeted that his work on TVD is far from being over, so hopefully he won't leave.

I loved hearing Stefan describe Ric as Damon's "best friend", though. Confirmation that it's not just fans who are well aware of the relationship. :)
oh no it's definetely just no us!!!

I liked Cassidy's portrayal of Sage, but I was disappointed she really didn't factor into the episode as much as I thought she would.
You're not alone in this. People was expecting a DAmon flashback episode and they got a brotherly one. Honestly I don't care because I saw so much Damon's growth in this one to make me happy for a while.

This show does a much better job overall casting for female guest-stars and semi-regulars than SPN does, that's for sure (though today's SPN casting spoiler was a cool one).
SPN had some great female characters and decided to waste them...

ON Elena loving vamps: I think she's going to go back and forth between Damon and Stefan and then probably she'll decide to love them both..at the end of the series. LOL!

It's become increasingly clearer to me as the show has progressed that they do alternately love and hate each other, as real brothers would do, but that they will always have each other's backs.
SO MUCH THIS.

Agreed on Matt and flashbacks!

Thanks for taking the time to comment hon!

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Val! All of the brotherly bonding! I CAN'T EVEN..

And Damon/Alaric/Liz scene was perfect

Rebekah and Sage were awesome! I can't wait to hear more about Sage and Damon in the next episode.

Still don't trust Meredith..why would she even have Samantha Gilbert's journal?

And Matt and Elena **loves**..aww..they were so cute! I could even see myself shipping them a little bit. I love how he is so there for her with all of her i love vampire(s) issues lol

I'm sad you don't like Finn..I'm like a Finn fangirl lol..well basically I love all of the Originals, so I can't leave him out. He's just so mysterious and smirky ;)

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On Finn: I love the Originals, but none of them own my heart as Damon and Stefan do.
I have a thing for Kol and I do really enjoy Klaus interaction with the Salvatores. Probably Rebekah is my favorite Original.
Let me see more of Finn and maybe I'll change my mind :))))

Agreed on Sage, Rebekah and Meredith.

I don't ship Elena and Matt, but I want MAtt happy so badly...poor guy.

On my favorite boys: TEAM SALVATORE AND TEAM DAMON with whoever you want. They were magnificent!

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I agree with you all the way and i guess we are some of the few that loved this episode

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Actually almost ll my TVD flist loved it and there was a good response in the communities too...anyway I don't care about the fandom, just about the show.

did you like SPn?

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Yes but not some scenes esp. with the lady villain

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Rebekah?

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I mean in SPN

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sORRY....was a little distracted :)