New Sera Gamble interview, what do you think?

[x5vale]

New Sera Gamble interview, here

Some things under the cut, since they asked not to repost the whole interview.




This:
With half a season as showrunner under her belt, Sera takes the opportunity to explain why she and the other producers decided to give this season a noir feel, why they ran with the soulless Sam story line, what went into reconstructing Sam's character, what’s coming up for the brothers in terms of their relationship, what it’s been like creating the character Death, what’s coming for Castiel, Samuel, monsters and others, why a civil war in Hell is just another day at the office for demons, and how there’s another exotic trip coming in Sam and Dean’s future (with a fun twist of course).


This is the only thing she said about Dean:
Question: WFB: Oh, poor Dean. You’ve shown how capable he can be as a family man (“Two and a Half Men” is particularly swooning) yet the universe still drags him into the horrors of hunting (his confession in “You Can’t Handle The Truth” is particularly heart breaking). On top of that, his own brother hasn’t been there for support and even put him in harms way. Will he continue to carry on as reluctant hero or will he gravitate more toward that fighting spirit and purpose he had in earlier seasons?

SG: I think there’s always been a bit of the reluctant hero in Dean, and there’s also always been a true free spirit in him. It’s part of what makes him such a complex and interesting character—that duality.

She said we'll hear again about Adam.

ETA
Just read some of the comments there...looks like that Alice is really not very open to listen to some very well put critics.

Comments

[ann-tara.livejournal.com]

LOL! Just discussing this interview in other quarters too. ;) First of all, you have to understand that Alice Jester of WFB is a diehard Sam!girl, and the site is primarily about the worship of Sam/JPad. Don't let the name of the site fool you - their only real interest is Sam and Jared. So every time Alice gets Sera's ear, it's always about Sam and for Sam stories. She once presented Sera with a list of Sam!girl demands a couple years ago.

So, yeah, no surprise there's no interest in Dean. Then again, Sera Gamble never really talks about Dean either unless she's directly forced into it.

p.s. Adam

[ann-tara.livejournal.com]

I am curious how they plan to address Adam again. And I don't even like the character, but it's bugged me all season that he's been treated like he never existed, until the off-hand mention by Dean in AiS. So I'll be interested to hear in what context they mention him again.

Re: p.s. Adam

[x5vale.livejournal.com]

I am curious too and I am happy they didn't forget him.

I mean, never been fond of the idea but since he was in the pit too, well, would have been nice to spend some words on him as well.

[x5vale.livejournal.com]

I dind't even notice it was from that site.

You know, the point was that there was not Sam neither there. Anyway I just think I have to wait and see.

*hugs*

[metallidean-grl.livejournal.com]

I'm excited as ever for the "second half" of the season. I have a whole new positive feeling about the first half and I am so excited to see where Dean and Sam's journey is going to go next. I am going to try and take it as it comes and not have any unrealistic expectations.

[x5vale.livejournal.com]

I am happy you are excited. I need the show to be back to feel it again :)

[aphrodite33.livejournal.com]

No offense here Val, nothing Sera said would have pleased the Dean half of the fandom. There were no spoilers only a few most of it is what we know already.

And honestly many Dean fans are calling out to their half of the fandom by saying watch Fringe live, until we get what we want. Basically threatening SPN's existence...

[x5vale.livejournal.com]

No I am not like that. I am not saying watch Fringe. I stick with SPN.

I have no problem with how she is writing Dean. It's consistent.

I am just tired to see him like the punching bag everyone can use when they are upset, tired, angry.

I will stay here, watch the show, enjoy the good and criticize what I don't like. The season is not bad, but I am not excited as Gamble is. She sees the merits, she doesn't see the flaws.
This whole soul idea doesn't work for me. I am willing to see what's coming next, but the spoilers that I have seen so far, are not exciting (every single one).
It's teh first time I feel there's no balance between the characters and if you know me, and you do, you know I have never complain about SPN being the Sam (or the Dean) show. Or about Dean's role.
If I complain now, it's because for me Gamble is lacking in something. I can't exactly say what this something is, but this is how I feel.

I don't want anything, I have blamed the writers for listening to the wrong side of the fandom in the past, so I am not here to tell them what I want, but I think I can say I am not satisfied with what I am getting and that this season for me it's not as much exciting as Gamble thinks it is.

Just my two cents...always willing to talk to people who have a different point of view :)

But you've got me thinking: if people are really stopping watching SPN, maybe there is a reason behind it and maybe this reason is not shallow or silly, don't you think?

*hugs*

[aphrodite33.livejournal.com]

I wasn't meaning you Val, I know you better than that, you are part of the sane Dean fandom :)

Sorry, I was a little pissed at some of her responses.... And I didn't mean to take it out here.

So far the silent majority is pretty happy, sure the soul thing didn't work out for everyone, me I loved it. Cause I think it's the first time a human was walking around with no soul. My only complaint is Sam tried to act too much like Dean in season 1 and that I didn't like...

I am excited for the second half of the season...Yes, there could have been better questions, however; Sera isn't going to release any spoilers.

Again I am sorry, I didn't mean to take it out here...

*hugs*

[x5vale.livejournal.com]

I know hon, I know..I have been carried away by my own thoughts ;)

The Soul thing was a good idea but imo the charcerization or probably how Jared played it didn't work for me. Probably he just did what he was asked to, but dunno...it's about a feeling, you know?

I am happy the majority liked it, for the SPN sake, I am not ready to let the show go and I still have hopes the season will give that pathos I haven't felt so far.

You will probably read posts where I squee and complain at the same time :)))

Don't be sorry April, you are at home here, you can be honest :)))

*hugs tight*

[phantomas.livejournal.com]

I don't think they know what to do with Dean, really. The push Sam on these outwards risky experiences and never deliver on their full consequences, and keep Dean in a limbo of pain, probably because Jensen is great on close up ;)

I'll watch it. I want to keep following the boys till there are episodes to watch. But they way they are going/have been going for a while now, ...bah.

[x5vale.livejournal.com]

Exactly what I feel :)

BENTORNATA!!!!

[2sexyboys.livejournal.com]

I will watch this show until it ends, no matter what, but there isn't a flow like other seasons. I'm not like a lot of others here, who watch VD or some other show with just as love or more than spn. I watch other shows, but spn is really the bee end for me. I have put a lot of love into these boys and I want pay off for them and me, a pay off we all deserve. At the moment we aren't getting that. The soulessSam was a mistake imo, to Samgirls, he was hot, okay fine, but he wasn't a decent human being, he couldn't stay that way, he was dangerous, but of course Dean is going to be treated like crap for doing what he did for Sam *sigh*

I don't like Sera's interviews when it comes to Dean cause she says almost the same thing just in a different way every time. He's a complex character, he's a hero. That's it everytime. And they do nothing with him. Sure most things are from his pov in a way, but he is always on the side looking in. He really is basically doing nothing but looking after Sam.

Honestly I liked in a way, Lisa and Ben, but now they are forcing the 'family' down my throat. I don't want Dean being a daddy to Ben on odd eps. I want the Sam and Dean show.

I have no interest in Adam. I am sorry, he's character never made sense from day one and never will. I don't care where he is to be honest.

So as usually, when it comes to Dean Sera says squat. They should have asked about Sam, she would have talked forever LOL

Rant off

[x5vale.livejournal.com]

You know, I have snobbed TVD for a year and a half, then I gave it a chance and it hooked me up. I don't love it as much as I love SPN and I watch it in a more shallow way, but Damon and Stefan are my perfect idea of rebonding.

Dean owns me and he will always do that, it's Sam I don't feel anything about anymore. I blame the writers for this.

About Adam: I wasn't fond of him neither but since they put him in the picture and then sacrificed him in the pit, I think it would be fair to know how he is now.

As for Dean, I think he has been really well written in the fisrt half of the season. It was shown that he was the best hunter, the one who knew what to do, the one, the only one who cared about Sam.
I am sad he gave up his family for Sam, but it's what Dean is.

I don't complain about it, but teh season is lacking in something. I feel it.

Exactly like you do.

*hugs*

[2sexyboys.livejournal.com]

If I'm honest, I just can't get into VD yeah Damon is it? hehehe is the a good looking man, the other nothing for me or their relationship, but I just don't get it, but a lot of people don't get spn, so that's okay :)

And yes they brought Adam in, but they keep listening, I think to a majority of fans, and changing to suit them, and not balancing the stories out to fit that. Adam was that for me a fan thing.

I love the comedy eps, Ben's and they nearly always work so well, but the others this season are too disjointed and the whole season floating on Sam's soul is definitely a mistake to me, but that is most likely to me, not a Samgirl.

I don't want the Dean show, anymore than I want the Sam show. And I really do believe that if it wasn't for Jensen and Jared selling this so well, this show wouldn't even get the ratings it does now. But I am worried now that this 'disillusionment' is going to help Fringe and hurt us.

*hugs*

[x5vale.livejournal.com]

I don't get a lot of shows people are crushing over so I get you don't get the VD :)))

I know, Fringe can hurt us but I do hope the fans will stick around, I still think SPN is worth watching even if I am not excited about it as I used to be.

How are you btw?

*hugs*

[2sexyboys.livejournal.com]

Good thank you for asking, now that the water has gone and all is sorta well in our part anyway. I've just been busy trying to get things back on track, but I've been watching if not commentating as much as usual.

Am waiting on a new car, there's a bonus...and waiting and waiting LOL It is Australia Day here, so holiday and I am still working LOL Got start to pay the car I haven't got yet off LOL

You and yours still well?

[x5vale.livejournal.com]

We are ok, thank you.

I am glad the water has gone...

[kimmer1227.livejournal.com]

I think my brain is gonna explode. Seriously! You just said to me in another thread that dealing with fans is hard. You got that right. I think I'm just dense or something. I don't see all these issues in writing Sam or Dean.

I had a long ramble of wordies, but decided it was just me being rambly and opinionated, so I deleted it. I'll just say. I don't see the Dean show or the Sam show. Just SPN. I think/hope the sometimes inconsistent soulless!Sam storyline will pay off by seasons end. I'll be watching.

[x5vale.livejournal.com]

You are right, I said so.

But we have the right to say if we like or not like something I think.

I'll be watching too and once the hiatus will be over, I will squee again.

I watch the Dean&Sam show too. Always done.

[kimmer1227.livejournal.com]

We definitely have the right to complain. I've done my share! I think I'm just sensitive to certain complaints that go totally over my head, such as the usual women!hate, race!hate, religion!hate, hate of puppies. That kind of stuff. We all see thru our own window panes. That's what makes life interesting. And frustrating.

Totally OT. I had the BEST bottle of Italian Moscato D'Asti the other day. I instantly thought of you and smilla02. It was delicious!! :D

[x5vale.livejournal.com]

That kind of stuff. We all see thru our own window panes. That's what makes life interesting. And frustrating.
AGREED.

I love Moscato :)))

[wynefred.livejournal.com]

Interesting in a non-revealing kind of way. She likes to dance around the answers, doesn't she?! Heh. I am pleased to know that they're going to at least mention Adam again. My one big annoyance this season has been that they'd seemed to have forgotten about their little brother who's also trapped in the pit, and one mention mid-season just wasn't enough to really satisfy me.

I think their decision to go soulless with Sam was interesting and made a kind of sense. I also think Jared has played it very well. I've absolutely loved how he managed to amp up the sexy this season (even with his shirt on, soulless Sam is hothothot). Of course, now that I've feasted my eyes and enjoyed a little bit of fun with him, I'm more than ready for the boys to be brothers again. Dean needs his Sammy back!

I'm looking forward to the rest of the season. Bring on the weird and crazy monsters! Brotherly angst and brotherly schmoop! More Lisa and Ben. Yeah, it could be very cool. :D

Thanks for posting the article, hon! Oh, and the internet card on Sis's laptop is broken so she's not around much these days. I'll make sure she has some online time over the next couple of days.

[x5vale.livejournal.com]

Yep she does. She never spills spoilers.
Agreed on Adam, he was so used as a plot device and it was unfair not to mention it more.

The idea of soulless Sam for me was good per se, but I didn't like the characterization and how Jared played it. It's maybe the first time that he really disappointed me with his acting...but you know, it's just me. I am ahppy that people could enjoy it.

I am ready for it too, but I want something more for Dean and Sam than jsut being together on the road again. Let's see what happens :)

I was wondering about your sis...I miss her.

*hugs both*

[wynefred.livejournal.com]

I think having a newly-birthed Sam-girl for a sister has made me appreciate Sam and Jared more. Sis can really see the positive in him and interprets the character in ways I'd never considered. If not for her, I would likely have been more ho-hum about him.

Whatever happens, you know it'll be different.

Sis misses you too! She's been miserable-sick lately. She caught my horrible cold and now she has pink eye. She just wants to curl up in her bed for days, but of course she can't since being a mom is 24-7. I'm amazed she even gets up in the mornings!

*hugs you back*... and I'll pass your hug to her. She could use one right now.

[x5vale.livejournal.com]

Honestly it's not that I don't see those aspect in Sam, it's just that what I like about him is a lot less than what I dislike in him.

Yep I read that she was sick. I hope she feels better now.

Double hug again!

[oanaspn.livejournal.com]

Hey Val! Wow! ann_tara & 2sexyboys expressed my thoughts exactly! I was expecting something this kinda of blah from Sera and Alice, since they are some die hard Sam fans, no offense to them. From my point of view, since Eric let go and Sera got to be the showrunner and to WRITE Dean's character...everything crumbled, although Jensen sure does a terrific job @ portraying Dean. Robo Sam was creepy and a walking disaster, and of course that Dean will be blamed and chastised (again) for trying to help his brother. Despite the fact that my favorite show lost his magic, i will watch till the very end, i invested to much of my life in these boys to give up now. Dean is my favorite tv character: EVER, and honestly, when i watch TVD (i watched from the very first epi when it came up:)))i 'm getting a little glad because watching Stefan/Damon it reminds me of the incredible connections Sam/Dean had, and most definitely will never have...

"SG: We’re touched and amazed and we will never get used to our fans’ loyalty and attention. We all blush and get squirmy at the mere thought of being popular on any level".
LOL! Really? All? Squirm & blush?:)

So yeah, i'll wait patiently for the boys to return because i really missed them but, i know you understand...everything changed

Thanks for sharing this Val, and sorry for the long, slightly pissed off rant:)

[x5vale.livejournal.com]

I totally agree with you sweetie. It's like Dean is pointless...I hope to be wrong but this is shwat I feel this season.

Feel free to talk here whenever you want :)))

[leelust.livejournal.com]

Heh, i managed to read almost all of it (skipped questions because since it's from AJ site i knew questions will be samsamsamsam.
What can i say... sera sounds very passive-agressive there. just like kripke after Shit Song fiasco.
I didn't expect there anything interesting about dean (because of the site and because sera never talks about Dean if she's not asked). But i couldn't not to laugh at her mentioning that everyone there loves the idea of soulless sam theme. Yeah,right when even her own stars weren't happy about it and begged it to stop. She could pretend better, you know.

All in all it think the interview was pointless.
Not to start anything i'll post my other thoughts in my journal.

[x5vale.livejournal.com]

Oh yeah...we all love it hon, don't you know?

Waiting for you.

[albeitslowly.livejournal.com]

You don't wanna know what I think, but I love you. I think I've already had words with one or two of the other commenters on a another board. It's just not worth the drama, methinks.

[x5vale.livejournal.com]

I know what you think.

Yep it's not worth the drama :)))

[a-phoenixdragon.livejournal.com]

*Skips spoilery*

*hugs*

[x5vale.livejournal.com]

*sends love*

[pinkphoenix1985.livejournal.com]

thanks Val :)

Honestly, I've reached a stage where I just don't like either brother very much. I think that they could have done so much with both and just didn't. Same goes for Castiel. Bobby's on the fence I think...

I still watch and write about Supernatural BECAUSE I miss the brothers so much. I'm just waiting hoping to have some type of payoff of a sort...

And yeah there will ALWAYS be the fans who don't feel that their AWESOME brother #1 doesn't get all the treatment and screen time that he deserves and whine about it constantly. But hey Supernatural didn't start off with only one brother travelling the US by himself- there were TWO brothers! :)

And I fear that SPN will go the way of SV and just limp off the screen after its 10th or 11th season and honestly while I know a lot of fans want SPN to be always on TV. I want it to end with a bang and leave us satisfied but wanting just a little more...

[x5vale.livejournal.com]

If we are still talking about screen time it's sad.

I never cared. It's the lack of evolution that I don't like.

*hugs*

[pinkphoenix1985.livejournal.com]

I know! It is so sad :( especially when some fans turn to saying things about the actors themselves! It's frightening how some people act sometimes.

I'm with you! And I completely agree! I feel like there hasn't been so much evolution with both the brothers, individually and as brothers. It frustrates me so much when they show something of a development on screen in one episode and in the next, things are back to square one :((

[vella-amor-dm.livejournal.com]

all i have to say in response to the article, interview, alice and the comments is: ARGH. so over the wank, on any level :|

[x5vale.livejournal.com]

I am so over it too!

[jendeana.livejournal.com]

Very interesting. At least they haven't forgotten about Adam altogether.

[x5vale.livejournal.com]

Yep, at least this.