SPN ep 3.09
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x5valeOH Kripke I love you but I hate you!
Ok let's start with the SQUEEE part, would you?
The squee is on....DEAN WINCHESTER. I love him every single moment more than the one before. I missed him so much. I'm starting to think Tv Show will be over for me when SPN will end.
Dean, I love you so. Hot, smart, caring, sweet (would you deny that?, think of his reaction about the rabbit)kick ass boy!!!
Every expression, every action,every line, Jensen does rocks. Dean rocks. Ok, end of squee. Maybe.
Highlights
-Suits.
-Smart boys, so professional.
-Dean and Sam talking in the witch's house. The rabbit.
-Dean talking to the 911.
-Dean's fisrt reaction to Ruby and Sam's face.
-Dean in big brother protector mode.
-Dean and Sam arguing about Ruby. Oh Sam you are so like Dean, and this is worrying him so much!
-"You're leaving"...Sam have you really given up, haven't you?
-Dean in pain, bleeding. Evil bitch!!!
-Sam worried and ready to kill everyone to save him.
-Why did she stop the bullet? The COLT bullet?
-Ruby saving Dean and telling him, "stop to call me bitch".
-All the scene with the Demon, a new leader rising in the west and he does not like Sam...they don't believe in him. They don't believe Sam can actually be their leader...is this the truth? Or just something said to confuse Sam?
-Dean to the rescue!
-Both stuck to the wall.
-Dean's face when Ruby and Tammy talk.
-Girls fight!!!
-Dean stabbing the demon with so much rage and strenght. Don't mess with his brother!
-Dean helping Sam.
-Dean and Ruby at the end. I guess she works better than Bela, and I do like Bela.
I have been waiting this episode for so long that I can't believe is actually here. The boys are back, Ruby too.
The episode
Overall, not bad. I really don't care about the witch plotline and how it has been developed. I do care about the main arch and the mythology behind the surface.
I like that SPN is becoming gross. It has to be imo, it's called Supernatural, it can't be soft. Now I would like it to be a little scarier.
I enjoyed how some scenes were shot.
Dean, Sam, Ruby and the demons mythology
So she's not bad, so she's not a fallen angel but she was once human and then became a demon. This is interesting. Since in Sin City they spoke of fallen angels, I wonder
whether there are two diffente kinds of demons, the ones who were once humans and the one who were angels. Would be interesting to expand the knowledge around them and
their world. I actually would like an episode set in Hell :).
Btw imo it can happen, I mean, you are in hell for the eternity and you become what the others are. Not to mention that is a perfect revelation at this point of the season.
It sticks with Dean's future and fears.
Back again on Ruby, now. I guess her character is one of those I can't either like or dislike completely. I mean I think her role in this season is interesting for the
mythology but she is also a very disturbing element for the boys. Bela is more dangerous, because she doesn't hesitate to put the brothers in danger for her personal gain, but Ruby is more destabilizing. Ruby lied to Sam in order to get his attention and trust. This is cruel, once Sam will find out he might probably kill Ruby but, she really wants Sam to be ready for the war. She wants him to be stronger, to become more like Dean. Why? because she knows that the old Sam, the one who spent hours brooding, thinking, analyzing everything, couldn't win a war where he has to be quick and resolved. Sam must be strong enough to go over his fears and his hesitations.
Ruby knew the only way she had to get to Sam was lying about Dean.
Now I would like to know why Ruby cares so much. Just because she is somehow still human? or because she wants to be the leader....or what if the rising leader is Ruby herself? maybe she is just lying to Dean, like she did to Sam.
Or maybe she just wants to regain her soul?
Then I like her interaction with the boys. Sam is kinda like a little kid when she's around. He is there listening to her, maybe fighting not to trust her but so in desperate need to believe she could actually help him to save Dean. Sam surely is not unbiased about Ruby.
Dean and Ruby? Better than I thought. I liked how the tension between them calmed down but, at the same time, how Dean considered her. can we say that he still think she is a bitch and deserves to die or now he believes her and sees her human side?
She is there to let Dean know what will happen next. I don't think we have to wait the next episode to see Dean realizing he doesn 't want to die.
What Ruby told him should be enough to make him re think his whole attitude. His future is, becoming a demon. What he has hated and hunted for all his life. The EVIL. Not a simple creature, not a vampire...a DEMON. Dean can't deal with this. He can't numbly accept it, he just can't.
For once he will decide to live for himself, because becoming a demon is too much even for Dean.
Where does all of this leave Sam?
Before this episode the whole point was that he was working behind the scene to get Dean out of the deal, now is Dean to know the truth and maybe, in the future, we could even see Dean and Ruby working together to reinforce Sam. Weird ally for Dean, but useful since he wants the same thing Ruby wants, preparing Sam to face the future without him.
And maybe there is a chance for Dean...becoming a demon with a soul, like Ruby apparentely is.
Meanwhile Dean will try to get himself out of the deal, so this is an awesome twist plot wise.
Can Dean die and go to hell? Can he become demon faster than the other human beings and will have Sam to fight him in order to save him?
Of course I totally dislike this idea, but I can't deny it's a very good one. Full of potential, angst, action, love, pain.
But I DONT LIKE IT. I DONT LIKE EVIL!DEAN at all.
The question is, Dean can't be saved or Ruby can't save Dean? This totally makes BIG difference.
But and this is why Kripke is a genius, maybe this is just a twist to distract us and Sam is still the Demons King and Dean the one who has to save him from Hell.
Dean and Sam.
Classic brotherly moments which, to me, are priceless. No matter how the episode is, one of those little moments saves the show every week.
I adored Dean in big brother protective mode. He was with Ruby, he was when Sam told him he wanted to become more like him. The look on his face was priceless, his reaction was like wtf lil bro? What do you think you are doing?
And Sam? While he annoyed me a couple of times, because I do not like how he deals with some things, well he was the little brother, aiming to become like his bigger one.
Sam still thinks about Dean as a hero. It is not in their everyday life, or in what Sam normally does or says, is in this little glimpses of how much Sam is bonded to his
brother, of how much Dean has always represented for him. His father and mother, his brother and protector, his teacher and his savior. Some people in the fandoms complain because Sam doesn't show enough how much he cares. I complain about his unsensitive actions sometimes, but I would never never say that Sam doesn't love his brother.
So this is turning point episode imo, for Dean. Next one should confirm my theories.
Now let's go to discuss!!!
Ok let's start with the SQUEEE part, would you?
The squee is on....DEAN WINCHESTER. I love him every single moment more than the one before. I missed him so much. I'm starting to think Tv Show will be over for me when SPN will end.
Dean, I love you so. Hot, smart, caring, sweet (would you deny that?, think of his reaction about the rabbit)kick ass boy!!!
Every expression, every action,every line, Jensen does rocks. Dean rocks. Ok, end of squee. Maybe.
Highlights
-Suits.
-Smart boys, so professional.
-Dean and Sam talking in the witch's house. The rabbit.
-Dean talking to the 911.
-Dean's fisrt reaction to Ruby and Sam's face.
-Dean in big brother protector mode.
-Dean and Sam arguing about Ruby. Oh Sam you are so like Dean, and this is worrying him so much!
-"You're leaving"...Sam have you really given up, haven't you?
-Dean in pain, bleeding. Evil bitch!!!
-Sam worried and ready to kill everyone to save him.
-Why did she stop the bullet? The COLT bullet?
-Ruby saving Dean and telling him, "stop to call me bitch".
-All the scene with the Demon, a new leader rising in the west and he does not like Sam...they don't believe in him. They don't believe Sam can actually be their leader...is this the truth? Or just something said to confuse Sam?
-Dean to the rescue!
-Both stuck to the wall.
-Dean's face when Ruby and Tammy talk.
-Girls fight!!!
-Dean stabbing the demon with so much rage and strenght. Don't mess with his brother!
-Dean helping Sam.
-Dean and Ruby at the end. I guess she works better than Bela, and I do like Bela.
I have been waiting this episode for so long that I can't believe is actually here. The boys are back, Ruby too.
The episode
Overall, not bad. I really don't care about the witch plotline and how it has been developed. I do care about the main arch and the mythology behind the surface.
I like that SPN is becoming gross. It has to be imo, it's called Supernatural, it can't be soft. Now I would like it to be a little scarier.
I enjoyed how some scenes were shot.
Dean, Sam, Ruby and the demons mythology
So she's not bad, so she's not a fallen angel but she was once human and then became a demon. This is interesting. Since in Sin City they spoke of fallen angels, I wonder
whether there are two diffente kinds of demons, the ones who were once humans and the one who were angels. Would be interesting to expand the knowledge around them and
their world. I actually would like an episode set in Hell :).
Btw imo it can happen, I mean, you are in hell for the eternity and you become what the others are. Not to mention that is a perfect revelation at this point of the season.
It sticks with Dean's future and fears.
Back again on Ruby, now. I guess her character is one of those I can't either like or dislike completely. I mean I think her role in this season is interesting for the
mythology but she is also a very disturbing element for the boys. Bela is more dangerous, because she doesn't hesitate to put the brothers in danger for her personal gain, but Ruby is more destabilizing. Ruby lied to Sam in order to get his attention and trust. This is cruel, once Sam will find out he might probably kill Ruby but, she really wants Sam to be ready for the war. She wants him to be stronger, to become more like Dean. Why? because she knows that the old Sam, the one who spent hours brooding, thinking, analyzing everything, couldn't win a war where he has to be quick and resolved. Sam must be strong enough to go over his fears and his hesitations.
Ruby knew the only way she had to get to Sam was lying about Dean.
Now I would like to know why Ruby cares so much. Just because she is somehow still human? or because she wants to be the leader....or what if the rising leader is Ruby herself? maybe she is just lying to Dean, like she did to Sam.
Or maybe she just wants to regain her soul?
Then I like her interaction with the boys. Sam is kinda like a little kid when she's around. He is there listening to her, maybe fighting not to trust her but so in desperate need to believe she could actually help him to save Dean. Sam surely is not unbiased about Ruby.
Dean and Ruby? Better than I thought. I liked how the tension between them calmed down but, at the same time, how Dean considered her. can we say that he still think she is a bitch and deserves to die or now he believes her and sees her human side?
She is there to let Dean know what will happen next. I don't think we have to wait the next episode to see Dean realizing he doesn 't want to die.
What Ruby told him should be enough to make him re think his whole attitude. His future is, becoming a demon. What he has hated and hunted for all his life. The EVIL. Not a simple creature, not a vampire...a DEMON. Dean can't deal with this. He can't numbly accept it, he just can't.
For once he will decide to live for himself, because becoming a demon is too much even for Dean.
Where does all of this leave Sam?
Before this episode the whole point was that he was working behind the scene to get Dean out of the deal, now is Dean to know the truth and maybe, in the future, we could even see Dean and Ruby working together to reinforce Sam. Weird ally for Dean, but useful since he wants the same thing Ruby wants, preparing Sam to face the future without him.
And maybe there is a chance for Dean...becoming a demon with a soul, like Ruby apparentely is.
Meanwhile Dean will try to get himself out of the deal, so this is an awesome twist plot wise.
Can Dean die and go to hell? Can he become demon faster than the other human beings and will have Sam to fight him in order to save him?
Of course I totally dislike this idea, but I can't deny it's a very good one. Full of potential, angst, action, love, pain.
But I DONT LIKE IT. I DONT LIKE EVIL!DEAN at all.
The question is, Dean can't be saved or Ruby can't save Dean? This totally makes BIG difference.
But and this is why Kripke is a genius, maybe this is just a twist to distract us and Sam is still the Demons King and Dean the one who has to save him from Hell.
Dean and Sam.
Classic brotherly moments which, to me, are priceless. No matter how the episode is, one of those little moments saves the show every week.
I adored Dean in big brother protective mode. He was with Ruby, he was when Sam told him he wanted to become more like him. The look on his face was priceless, his reaction was like wtf lil bro? What do you think you are doing?
And Sam? While he annoyed me a couple of times, because I do not like how he deals with some things, well he was the little brother, aiming to become like his bigger one.
Sam still thinks about Dean as a hero. It is not in their everyday life, or in what Sam normally does or says, is in this little glimpses of how much Sam is bonded to his
brother, of how much Dean has always represented for him. His father and mother, his brother and protector, his teacher and his savior. Some people in the fandoms complain because Sam doesn't show enough how much he cares. I complain about his unsensitive actions sometimes, but I would never never say that Sam doesn't love his brother.
So this is turning point episode imo, for Dean. Next one should confirm my theories.
Now let's go to discuss!!!
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Date: 2008-02-01 12:51 pm (UTC)Then again.... *looks at the fucking GORGEOUS background*... it might be worth it.
Wow, that's purty. I WANT DEAN TO WEAR THAT COAT ALL DAY LONG.
Ok, I can't see what I'm typing here. *goes style=mine stealth mode*
Ahhhhhh, ok. LMFAO I'm a bitch.
Now then.
YES YES YES YES YES.
I don't believe ONE SINGLE WORD Ruby said. I hold to my theory that she's, if not Satan or Lucifer, a MAJOR player. Beelzebub or Mephistopheles or someone. And the same goes for the other demon we saw. A BIG player in hell - and that's why the Colt did nothing. I think she lied to Dean, I think she and that Demon were in cahoots together, and I think it's ALL a ploy to bring Sam into the fold. I think they were just trying to get Dean to trust Ruby so that Sam would be more easily corrupted.
(I could be so wrong that it isn't even funny, lmao, but that's what I think.)
Maggots. I was eating macaroni and cheese and WILL I NEVER LEARN that I can no longer eat when Show is on? *gags*
Jared help me, I was getting into a bit of Dean/Ruby, and OH GOD I hate that Cassidy girl, but... I would not be averse to seeing some Dean/Ruby. Yup.
I loved how SAM went all "big brother", although I did NOT like him having to leave Dean dying on the floor in order to do it.
Which leads me to think it was all Ruby's plan. Try to warn them off in the beginning to gain their trust when it all goes to hell. This was she can be all - Not only did I try to stop you from going, I saved Dean's ass and then came to save Sam later.
Fucking BRILLIANT, if that's what's going on.
Dean won't ever be a demon - I REFUSE, dude. It does not compute LMAO. It's like, Vampire Buffy. Just... please no.
But I can totally see Sam and Dean being led around by Ruby until Sam goes evil - like he nearly did by going in there and killing 2 innocent humans, which he was fully prepared to do.
In conclusion, hi. I love show.
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Date: 2008-02-01 01:37 pm (UTC)Let's just say that we pretty much the same themes:
1. Ruby is lying
2. Dean isn't going to hell
3. Dean/Ruby= hot. Cassidy, ewww.
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Date: 2008-02-01 02:30 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2008-02-01 02:59 pm (UTC)I might have to write that threesome that's driving me insane.
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Date: 2008-02-01 03:39 pm (UTC)I don't care if I am right or wrong :)))
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Date: 2008-02-01 02:23 pm (UTC)I asked to Amber to fix it.
Then again.... *looks at the fucking GORGEOUS background*... it might be worth it.
Thank you!
Wow, that's purty. I WANT DEAN TO WEAR THAT COAT ALL DAY LONG.
AGREEEEEEEEDDDDD! So freaking hot!
I don't believe ONE SINGLE WORD Ruby said. I hold to my theory that she's, if not Satan or Lucifer, a MAJOR player.
This is my second take on it, rewayching the episode. I edited my post :)
I think she lied to Dean, I think she and that Demon were in cahoots together, and I think it's ALL a ploy to bring Sam into the fold.
Like I said my second thought.
I loved how SAM went all "big brother", although I did NOT like him having to leave Dean dying on the floor in order to do it.
One of the things that annoyed me but i guess he had no choice.
Which leads me to think it was all Ruby's plan. Try to warn them off in the beginning to gain their trust when it all goes to hell. This was she can be all - Not only did I try to stop you from going, I saved Dean's ass and then came to save Sam later.
If true, damn you evil bitch!
Dean won't ever be a demon - I REFUSE, dude. It does not compute LMAO. It's like, Vampire Buffy. Just... please no.
Exactly, please no.
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Date: 2008-02-01 02:29 pm (UTC)I JUST REWATCHED IT, TOO! And now I'm torn. And I'm also getting mad because that stupid Cassidy girl is becoming BETTER, and I don't LIKE having to eat my words. LMAO. Freaking wretched hussy.
One of the things that annoyed me but i guess he had no choice.
Seriously - I was YELLING at the TV. I was all SAMMY, DAMMIT WHERE THE FUCK ARE YOU GOING? (Even though I'd seen the clips and I knew it was coming, STILL GRR) He just LEFT Dean there, bleeding on the floor! I mean. God. That had to have been SO freaking hard to do. (I mean, if Sam was a real person. LMAO).
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Date: 2008-02-01 04:00 pm (UTC)Awwww Jensen....
I JUST REWATCHED IT, TOO! And now I'm torn. And I'm also getting mad because that stupid Cassidy girl is becoming BETTER
I'm torn too...and I agree on Cassidy.
Seriously - I was YELLING at the TV. I was all SAMMY, DAMMIT WHERE THE FUCK ARE YOU GOING?
I knew so I didn't yell this time. Actually from the preview I thought it would have been a lot worse. At least he was there for a minute and he had to save his brother.
*hugs*
the problem with the font should be fixed by now.
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Date: 2008-02-02 04:01 am (UTC)♥♥ Reiven
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Date: 2008-02-02 09:34 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2008-02-02 01:27 pm (UTC)It severely pisses me off.
And yeah, I don't like the show dong that. But I never NOT squee about an episode, so I've chosen to bitch about Ruby being a liar, instead. LOL.
Evil Cheerleader. LMFAO.
Evil Cheerleaders suck!
Date: 2008-02-02 11:11 pm (UTC)♥ Reiven