SPN S08E02 reaction: All My Dean Feels!
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x5valeThree main things to talk about after watching this episode, which I liked but not excited me. I liked Mrs Tran and also the new Angels.
Not much to say on Sam. I just don't like how they are portraying him, so be careful because some comments might be not Sam friendly.
I love Benny so far. Hope he doesn't give me reasons to hate him.
Sorry not coherent, just some emotional thoughts.
Moral Standard
I hope the show is not trying to sell again the fact that Sam moral's is higher and better than Dean's one because this is going to fail miserably.
Example:
Sam didn't hesitate to trap the demon's inside Kevin's mom friend so that they could kill him and then he was lecturing Dean because he was ready to kill Kevin's mom (which he wasn't because he didn't).
So? What's the difference between the two women? The first one was an unknown person, while Kevin's mom is someone they care about because it's Kevin mom and because they need Kevin, so they need her.
Castiel and Dean
I loved the re-union. I loved how much Dean and Castiel care for each other. I can also appreciate that Castiel is trying to protect Dean, but...there's some more to that. Something more subtle which, btw, was the first thing I felt watching that scene.
They are turning Cas into woobie!Cas. They are deconstructing Cas character and I am not liking it.
It's still Cas and I still love him but once again what they have done is made him decide to leave Dean behind in order to protect him. Noble, awesome, loving but not what Dean needed. Dean needed Castiel. The core of their relationship is that they need each other. They stand up for each other.
Dean found himself alone in Purgatory and he prayed to him, just to know he was alive. For help too. Cas knew, he listened to those prayers and he didn't go. It costed him a lot. I bet he was torn inside and that his heart was bleeeding, because, come on it was Dean out there alone. Impossible situation. Cas could never win, except he could.
Castiel ran away and then he said that it did for Dean. No. Just no. It’s what he did before. He didn’t tell Dean about his hidden agenda to protect him and he worked on his own, lying, manipulating and practically screwing up with everything. Meanwhile Castiel was protecting Dean, Dean was alone fighting for his life, turning in someone he is going to hate for the rest of his life.
So does Cas think that Dean can’t bear fighting the Leviathans again? Does he think that is better to leave Dean alone in a place like the Purgatory?
Cas loves Dean and it’s out of love he made his decision, but it’s because of the consenquences of that decision on Dean, I watch that scene and feel like breaking inside..because I see Dean being broken, crushed, left alone again.
Dean needed Cas to be with him. Fighting with him, not for him. This is what Dean wants and what Dean needs and it disappoints me once again that Castiel didn’t understand it.
Dean
I didn’t think it was possible to break him more than they have done so far, but I was wrong. That look on his face when he killed the monster…it was satisfaction. He wanted to kill that soul. Just to kill it. No other reason. The Dean who come back from the Purgatory is not the Dean who got there. He is different. He is now fighting a war which is not the Apocalypse, which is not done because the world is about to be destroyed. It’s done because it would be the end of a cicle, closing a circle, maybe giving them some rest and peace. This war is going to cost them a lot. How far Dean is willing to go? What would have happened if he had killed Kevin’s mother? Which are the real consequences of having spent a whole year killing, killing, killing? A whole life spent hating and hunting monsters, with a father who taught him not to have pity. This Dean is broken, is trying to deal with everything, is hiding things, is even more upfront when it comes to tell Sam or Cas what he was expecting from them. This Dean hates himself..but as he said, what’s one more nightmare? He is there, doing what he does best, dying inside a little bit more every time he kills because he knows he has to, but he also knows that sometimes it’s not fair. The Dean who thinks and he does think it, that people he doesn’t need anymore end up dead and Castiel face to haunt him…But this Dean…oh god this Dean so needs some comfort, a place, a person to rely on, to make him feel at peace. He broke me when he was talking to Castiel. How he was begging him not to leave him. How was asking him to stay with him, not sacrificing himself for him. Dean doesn’t need people to die for him, he wants and needs friends who are willing to be with him and fight with him. With, not for. Because you know…after all, the aftermath is that he is alone and a lonely life is not something Dean deserves.
Not much to say on Sam. I just don't like how they are portraying him, so be careful because some comments might be not Sam friendly.
I love Benny so far. Hope he doesn't give me reasons to hate him.
Sorry not coherent, just some emotional thoughts.
Moral Standard
I hope the show is not trying to sell again the fact that Sam moral's is higher and better than Dean's one because this is going to fail miserably.
Example:
Sam didn't hesitate to trap the demon's inside Kevin's mom friend so that they could kill him and then he was lecturing Dean because he was ready to kill Kevin's mom (which he wasn't because he didn't).
So? What's the difference between the two women? The first one was an unknown person, while Kevin's mom is someone they care about because it's Kevin mom and because they need Kevin, so they need her.
Castiel and Dean
I loved the re-union. I loved how much Dean and Castiel care for each other. I can also appreciate that Castiel is trying to protect Dean, but...there's some more to that. Something more subtle which, btw, was the first thing I felt watching that scene.
They are turning Cas into woobie!Cas. They are deconstructing Cas character and I am not liking it.
It's still Cas and I still love him but once again what they have done is made him decide to leave Dean behind in order to protect him. Noble, awesome, loving but not what Dean needed. Dean needed Castiel. The core of their relationship is that they need each other. They stand up for each other.
Dean found himself alone in Purgatory and he prayed to him, just to know he was alive. For help too. Cas knew, he listened to those prayers and he didn't go. It costed him a lot. I bet he was torn inside and that his heart was bleeeding, because, come on it was Dean out there alone. Impossible situation. Cas could never win, except he could.
Castiel ran away and then he said that it did for Dean. No. Just no. It’s what he did before. He didn’t tell Dean about his hidden agenda to protect him and he worked on his own, lying, manipulating and practically screwing up with everything. Meanwhile Castiel was protecting Dean, Dean was alone fighting for his life, turning in someone he is going to hate for the rest of his life.
So does Cas think that Dean can’t bear fighting the Leviathans again? Does he think that is better to leave Dean alone in a place like the Purgatory?
Cas loves Dean and it’s out of love he made his decision, but it’s because of the consenquences of that decision on Dean, I watch that scene and feel like breaking inside..because I see Dean being broken, crushed, left alone again.
Dean needed Cas to be with him. Fighting with him, not for him. This is what Dean wants and what Dean needs and it disappoints me once again that Castiel didn’t understand it.
Dean
I didn’t think it was possible to break him more than they have done so far, but I was wrong. That look on his face when he killed the monster…it was satisfaction. He wanted to kill that soul. Just to kill it. No other reason. The Dean who come back from the Purgatory is not the Dean who got there. He is different. He is now fighting a war which is not the Apocalypse, which is not done because the world is about to be destroyed. It’s done because it would be the end of a cicle, closing a circle, maybe giving them some rest and peace. This war is going to cost them a lot. How far Dean is willing to go? What would have happened if he had killed Kevin’s mother? Which are the real consequences of having spent a whole year killing, killing, killing? A whole life spent hating and hunting monsters, with a father who taught him not to have pity. This Dean is broken, is trying to deal with everything, is hiding things, is even more upfront when it comes to tell Sam or Cas what he was expecting from them. This Dean hates himself..but as he said, what’s one more nightmare? He is there, doing what he does best, dying inside a little bit more every time he kills because he knows he has to, but he also knows that sometimes it’s not fair. The Dean who thinks and he does think it, that people he doesn’t need anymore end up dead and Castiel face to haunt him…But this Dean…oh god this Dean so needs some comfort, a place, a person to rely on, to make him feel at peace. He broke me when he was talking to Castiel. How he was begging him not to leave him. How was asking him to stay with him, not sacrificing himself for him. Dean doesn’t need people to die for him, he wants and needs friends who are willing to be with him and fight with him. With, not for. Because you know…after all, the aftermath is that he is alone and a lonely life is not something Dean deserves.
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