New interview with Eric and Sera

[x5vale]

Very interesting interview with EK and SG about S6 and Dean's role in S5.

Interview

Thanks Jasmine for the link.

Eric speaking about Dean's role in S5. It sounds like a provocation but it really seems to me that EK has been a little bit disconnected from his character.


Towards the end of the season, Dean’s importance in stopping the apocalypse seemed to have been dropped in favor of Sam. What would you say to that? Did viewers interpret that wrong?

Eric: Everything is open to interpretation. Far be it from me to tell fans what they think the show is. It’s for them. I can just tell you what it meant to me, which is that the show is and always has been about family, from page one to page 5,000. It’s never been about one brother or the other. It’s been about the relationship between the both of them. For me, it’s a yin-yang thing.

Salvation of the planet depended on both of them acting equally, and had Dean not decided to sacrifice himself and go to be with his brother because the love of family and the relationship between them trumped all, and had he not learned to forgive his brother and love him over years of experience on the show, then he never would have gone out there, Sam would have never seen him, he never would have seen the car, and he never would have had the strength to take over his body and save the world. That was a two-man job.

So, he played the role he was meant to play?

Eric: Yeah, and it was one that he never would have done in the pilot, but learned to do in the finale. To me, that’s what it’s all about. But, as long as they’re watching, people can think whatever the hell they want.

Comments

[vella-amor-dm.livejournal.com]

awwwww! i love that extract and yay that we interpreted it right ;) *high fives*
not that it's particularly difficult to figure out if you watch the show from the start

[x5vale.livejournal.com]

Because we know Dean :)

[albeitslowly.livejournal.com]

Eric's entitled to think whatever he wants, but I think Dean would've driven out there if this had all gone down in the pilot, too. So, yeah... go him for not having a clue about his own characters.

[x5vale.livejournal.com]

I am not sure he is not having a clue, I think the first idea he had of Dean was quite different from what Dean has become through the years.

[ann-tara.livejournal.com]

This is where I lose all respect for Kripke, because he's obviously reacting to a lot of complaints about Dean's non-role, and he's lashing out like a child by reducing Dean to a previously crappy brother who didn't love Sam the last five years.

Are you kidding me? The Dean we saw in the Pilot would have sacrificed himself for Sam. Dean DID sacrifice himself for Sam at the end of S2, written by Mr. Kripke, thank you very much, where Dean sells his soul to bring Sam back. Does Eric seriously not remember any of that, or does he think we're too stupid to remember it?

Don't try to sell me that Dean didn't love Sam, or that was supposed to be his only role on this show. And what about Sam? Did he not have to learn to love Dean, or was he too above loving or caring about Dean?

I'm happy that Kripke was slammed in the face with a lot of negativity about his finale, and that it wasn't the resounding success he assumed it would be, just because. But I'm sorry his reaction to the negativity is to diminish the fact that Dean is and always has been such an important and iconic character, and without whom he wouldn't have gotten to five seasons in the first place.

[x5vale.livejournal.com]

Yes he is reacting and you can tell he is annoyed...he has always been a little bit on the fence with fans. He teased us a lot and I bet he did both because he thought it waa a cool thing and also to make us see ourselves in a mirror.
To mock us...kinda of.

About Dean, well I think his first idea of Dean was different and then the writers and EK himself, thanks to Jensen too, changed the character during his journey.

For me Dean would have done everything since the pilot and I guess EK has been misundertsood in this interview, because he was not clear. He was a little bit defiant I think.

I had to read it few times to understand his point of view....

[a-phoenixdragon.livejournal.com]

Hmmm, interesting! But I must say, after the Season opener, I'm re-evaluating my take on SS. I'll have to get another eppie to truly decide though!

*SMISHES*

[x5vale.livejournal.com]

Let's wait and see, I am still on the fence on the whole thng but ok...good start :)

[leelust.livejournal.com]

Sorry, need to vent.
OMFG! Eric! Put your head out of your ass for a minue and watch Dean in Pilot not only read the script! Dean in Pilot already had all qualities he needed to act in your fucking finale! Gawds, it;s so sad when creator loses all touches with his own character.

[x5vale.livejournal.com]

I think that EK had a different idea of Dean in the pilot and that Dean has changed in his mind during the seasons. So, even if I know Dean was ready since DAY 1, probably EK didn't ;)

[lila-blue-b.livejournal.com]

<3 Yes, exactly. I love this show...

[x5vale.livejournal.com]

*hugs*

[thewickedquill.livejournal.com]

Val, you just can't stay away from SPN, can you? Whatever happened to taking a break from LJ? *grins*

Thanks for sharing this piece.

[x5vale.livejournal.com]

No I can't, especially from Dean :))))

*loves*

[katiki7.livejournal.com]

I understood what he was saying differently than other commenters. When I read that, I immediately thought he meant that Dean never would've played that role because he never would've allowed Sam to play his role. Pilot Dean never would've let Sam sacrifice himself. In the S5 finale, Dean says "it goes against every fiber of my being" but he supports Sam's plan anyway, and in the end he drives out to the cemetery to watch Sam die. Pilot Dean never would've watched Sam die. But by the S5 finale, Dean had come to see Sam as an equal, as he says to Sam when he tells him he's on board with the plan "You're not a kid anymore," and so he respects Sam's choice to die.

Anyway, that's the way I'm choosing to interpret it. And I can interpret it "however the hell I want" right? :)

[x5vale.livejournal.com]

Right here!

I think I am with you, I mean Dean is a Kripke character and he has to know him well :)

p.s.

[katiki7.livejournal.com]

I just read the full interview. (I was afraid there might be spoilers but my curiosity finally won out.)

I love what both Eric and Sera have to say about S6, I'm really excited.

Re: p.s.

[x5vale.livejournal.com]

I hope it will be good :)

[datenshiblue.livejournal.com]

There's no provocation, what Eric said is exactly what I'd gotten about the show from Season 1 on.

It's the fans who argue about the importance of one brother as compared to the other, it's the fans (some fans) who insist on creating expectations for themselves that are not and never have been what was intended by the show's creator.

Thanks for the link. This only confirms what I've always perceived, and why I loved the show from the start.

[x5vale.livejournal.com]

I think the way he said it can be misunderstood.

Honestly I am not among those who constatnly put Dean and Sam in competition so EK didn't say anything new for me.

I juts disagree about Dean not being "ready"from the pilot. Sure he has grown up through the years, but he was willing to sacrifice everything since S1.

I love the show too :)

[datenshiblue.livejournal.com]

It's cool to love the show. ;)

You're focusing on one thing. he was willing to sacrifice everything since S1.

Dean was always willing to sacrifice himself in part because he had such low self esteem. But that wasn't the key to beating Lucifer. He sacrificed himself for Sam and went to Hell, which didn't solve the problem, it served Azazel's and ultimately Lucifer's purposes perfectly.

What he wasn't ready to do, what it took him five seasons to grow into, was to accept and trust Sam to be able, somehow, to sacrifice himself to set things right. They both had to grow into that.

[x5vale.livejournal.com]

I agree, I have always said and thought that Dean had to learn to let Sam go. Mostly because their relatiosnhip wasn't healthy and balanced.

I think this is the biggest sacrifice Dean did in 5 seasons and I agree he was able to accept it after a long journey.

I'm on the fence with this new season but I am quite happy with the ending of their previous journey.
Actually the only thing I haven't really liked so far was the Adam as a vessel thing. The other things I disliked during 5 years are just details :)

[mullu.livejournal.com]

Hey. Here via SPN newsletter *hi, all*

So, I was thinking... Eric says this is something Dean would never have done in the pilot, and if we are talking about sacrificing for Sam, I totally disagree. But maybe he was not talking about that. I mean, Dean and Sam's relationship does grow A LOT through the show, and Dean did something for Sam in Swan Song that he would never have done before the very end of S5. He let him go. He let Sam go and say 'yes', and jump in the pit, and sacrifice himself.

I don't think that was just because of the apocalypse. The Dean that sold his soul at the end of S2 would have gladly let the world end to keep Sam safe. But that's not who they are anymore. Dean is dying the whole time, but he still lets Sam be a grown-up and make his choice, he still supports him through it all. To me, Dean walking Sam to Lucifer had a lot more to do with the way their relationship has evolved than with 'apocalyse desperation'.

So... maybe that was it?

[x5vale.livejournal.com]

Welcome!

I totally disagree too. We all know that Dean would have sacrificed himself for Sam or John since day 1..
If EK was talking about Dean and how much he has grown up during these years, I agree. He has learned a lot and he is more self aware of who he is and what he wants.

Agreed on yout take on S5 finale. I think you get it right :)