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[x5vale]

HAPPY BIRTHDAY lex_83!!!

Sorry I don't have much time to scroll down all my flist but I'll try to catch up :)


I am maybe overeacting, but you know me... I can be overprotective :))) What follows is just my humble opinion and everyone is entitled to theirs.

First thing I noticed this morning: Dean Winchester pissed some fans off. Dean is not allowed to fail, rememeber? Dean can't be weak, tired, broken, he can't play the reluctant hero, he can't be selfish (????)..no he can't. I might not agree with the fact that his behaviour hurt Sam, but how many times Sam did hurt Dean? It's part of being brothers, of being Dean and Sam.
Everyone in this show can make mistakes, Dean can't.

Can you tell me why the last scene disappointed some of you so much?
I just loved every single word, glance and emotion that shone through Dean's face.
Are you upset because you think Dean is giving up?
Are you mad because you think Dean is leaving Sam alone?
Dean is not, really. He has taken a break, he is taking care of one thing that is important for him before saying yes...I guess we all know he is going to say yes and doing the only thing that can save the wordl. So far, none has showed up with a better idea. Exactly like when Dean went to Hell. None was able to save him.


For once he did think about someone else. For once he did not think about Sam in the first place. Maybe...because I am pretty sure that Dean will come back to Sam, because, it's always about Sam for Dean but... If Sam asks and Dean is not ready to do what he asks for, Dean is criticized. You know, in S4 Sam pissed the hell out of me but I felt sorry for him, because he was lost and alone...now it's Dean's turn and there is no understanding for him? I wish I could see some balance when it comes to these boys and their actions.
I really don't understand: these boys need to deal with their issues and theh writers have neglected them for too long in this season. Now they are finally facing their problems and it is not good? Why? Because the boys have to be Dean&Sam all the time? They will be, but they can't now, not with what's happening or has happened already.

Ok yeah..I am in total Dean protecting mood, because, honestly? I have faith in him and in Kripke and I love to see how much resigned and broken is Dean. Especailly because I am sure he will come back and do the right thing. Dean won't give up at the end and he won't leave Sam, but, again, we should stop to consider that his only purpose is to stick with Sam. Dean has the right to live, decide, breathe on his own. Not just because of Sam.
If the writers will ever let Dean to realize he is just Dean and not "Dean who exists for Sam", they will do to their characters some justice and I'll be very very happy for both of them.

-Talking about Sam, I loved he showed some tender loving care in this episode and I really liked his interaction with the other characters. Sam is slowly growing up and I am happy about it.

-The episode
I loved it!
It was intense and I really enjoyed the action scenes. The boys saving each other and the little moments they spent together just talking and discussing things.
In each episode it is remarked that what is happening is Dean and Sam's fault. I don't agree with it but it's a useful plot device to tell us more about the boys. You could see on their faces how much affected they are but also how they are dealing with it in different ways. Kinda role reversal, Dean tired and discoureaged, Sam willing to fight. It's something we have seen since S4, after Dean came back from Hell. Maybe what he has seen is enough to weaken even the strongest person, being chosen and being asked to have faith when there is no proof your faith will be helpful.
Faith is something that you have or you don't, it's something inside of you, it's a great help if you have it and if you don't, you can feel lost.

-Castiel, Dean and Sam FTW!

-Finally a Dean-Cas scene, awww...I wanted to cuddle both of them (actually I wanted to cuddle Sam too). Dean and Cas can totally relate on a lot of levels. They have been failed by their fathers, they have believed in something thta was not as they thought it was, they are hopeless now.

-Go Dean...it was a good day, wasn't it? It's interesting: she could get killed only by a servant of Heaven and Dean killed her. So Does Dean serve Heaven even without telling yes to Michael? Or did he think "yes" for a moment and it worked?

-"When I picture myself happy, it's with you and the kid" AWWWWWWW!

-"I wish I could"....the war comes first.

-I guess we could talk about faith, religion, the effects of blind faith have on people but these are very sensitive subjects to be handled here.

-SHALLOW NOTE: Jensen gets prettier and prettier!



HAPPY WEEKEND FLIST!!!

Comments

[ckll.livejournal.com]

I replied you in my post and i say it also here: maybe he wants to feel/remember how it is to be normal visiting Lisa and probably taking the big yes decision. When i first watched the scene it looked so awkward to me and i didn't think he leaves Sam.
I also have faith in him, he's human, disappointed after last week's Joshua's words and probably it's some of us who haven't used to see him give up the fight, that's why we feel a little pissed. I was pissed with Sam's decisions last season, so now, it's 'equal'.

[x5vale.livejournal.com]

Just seen it and replied there.

I guess Lisa was the only girl who accepted Dean for who he was and she gave him some normalcy.
I bet that if Sam had left to visit Sarah for example, fandom would have reacted differentely.

I know you don't think he was leaving Sam but around the fandom there are people who think this. They are entitled of course. I just think Dean is about to say yes to Micheal and for this, he is trying to fix things.

Exactly, my point is that I am tired of people who are all understanding with Sam and not at all with him and of course it's not you I am talking about.

[albeitslowly.livejournal.com]

I have to confess, I haven't seen the epi yet. I work at night, so the first I got to see of it was all the bitching people posted in reaction. This is the first positive review I've seen, and I usually trust you, so maybe I will watch it when I get home.

BTW, I agree with everything you said here.

[x5vale.livejournal.com]

I am sorry you are not enjoying the show as you used to be and thanks for trusting me :)

Give it a chance and if you like, tell me what you think about it.

[sarahk-63.livejournal.com]

The ending caught me by surprise.

and on shallow note(s) : I thought Jared/Sam has had a haircut...? Or maybe his sideburns are less...geez...if I can't remember, I'll just have to go back and watch the episode again, dang! lol.

[x5vale.livejournal.com]

I thought the same thing but watching Jared now, the hair seems longer :)

[apieceofcake.livejournal.com]

I'm in agreement with what you said ♥

Happy Weekend Val!

xx.

[x5vale.livejournal.com]

I love my Dean girls :)))

Happy weekend :)

[kros-21.livejournal.com]

I'm not really mad at Dean honestly.
Like I tried to understand Sam's reasons last season, I'm trying to understand Dean's now.
And I do get them.

If you ask me Lisa > Sam? well, my answer will always be never. And it hurt like a bitch seeing Dean leaving Sam behind and making the decision on his own, exactly like it hurt last season watching Sam leaving Dean behind.

It's funny how in hlf a season the roles reverted so much.

I just hope Dean will come back to Sam.

[x5vale.livejournal.com]

I read your post and replied there, so you know what I think about fandom reaction. Well better say part of the fandom.

You knwo I don't bash anyone of the cahracters. I may disagree of course, but like you I at least try.

Exactly, Sam left behind Dean lots of times (just thinking about his memory in last episodes) so for me it's all about being honest. If you fandom justify one, you have to justify the other.

I think next episode will be better for fandom, not sure for me...but yeah I love the role reversal, because its not unbreakable rule that Dean is the one who has to rpotect Sam all the time.

A tiny note: Sam didn't say "I am here for you", he said "I need you". So even though I am sure he needs Dean because he is his guide, I am not sure it's what Dean needed to hear. I guess Sam has not learned yet how to deal with Dean when is Dean who needs help.

I can't wait for these boys to evolve and fully understand each other :)

[stjra.livejournal.com]

Some of this fandom is so damn fickle!

I agree with you whole heartedly.

I figure that a lot of people have never felt completely dejected and despondent. If they have then they will understand Dean's reaction.

It's times like these that I remember why I don't follow most of the fandom and only read episode reaction posts of those that I trust. I tend to miss all the wank that way and that's totally fine with me.

Have an Awesome weekend Honey!

*Hugs you tight*

[x5vale.livejournal.com]

I am even more pissed off but this is something for next week, after the 100th episode.

You know I ahven't read episode reactions..it just happen someone posted outside a cut..and then fandom exploded :)))

Love you

[twasadark.livejournal.com]

YES! If ever a character should be allowed a bit of leeway, it's Dean. The poor guy's been through Hell ... literally!

[x5vale.livejournal.com]

Amen hon!

people tend to forget where Dean's been.

[a-phoenixdragon.livejournal.com]

This was such a funny, scary heartwrencher!!

*Sobs*

[x5vale.livejournal.com]

*cuddles*

Replied better in Smilla's LJ :)

[overstreets.livejournal.com]

I loved the last scene (and the whole episode). It was so sweet and heartbreaking, and I don't fault Dean at all for going off to say yes to Michael. Dean is doing what he thinks will be the best for everyone, exactly how Sam thought he was doing what he thought would be the best way to kill Lilith in s4 with the whole Ruby thing. It's the same. They both have the best intentions, but things aren't so black and white and it's hard to see right and wrong in their world these days.

My only complaint is that I wish we'd gotten a little more build up to the Dean/Lisa thing, like Dean thinking about her, mentioning her, or seeing a random kid and thinking about Ben. Because even though I got it and loved it, my sister is a casual viewer who's not in the fandom, and though she watches every ep of SPN with me, she barely remembered Lisa. XD

[x5vale.livejournal.com]

I agree, I wanted to know more about Dean and Lisa.

Will Dean say yes to Micheal? I don't know but if he will, I think it's because everyone has a breaking point and Dean is there.

Better not to be born than living what they are living now.

*hugs*

99 problems

[(Anonymous)]

I really enjoyed this ep! There was a lot of action, great music and fantastic acting. What more could I ask for? Oh, a shirtless Dean would be nice! heehee
♥Reiv

Re: 99 problems

[x5vale.livejournal.com]

ITA!!!!

[sarlev-vanisa.livejournal.com]

I was so happy to get a Sam and Cas scene too. Like I said it's not Deans fault, nor is it Sam's. This show is so good because of these two well written characters. This whole show is based around their decisons and mistakes, it would be so boring if they didn't make them. I believe Dean when he says he's tired, yes he's giving up and it certainly looks like he's leaving his brother behind but he doesn't know what else to do. And I hate to say it but a lot of this is Sams fault, isn't it? If he hadn't believed Ruby none of this would have happened, but of course it goes all the way back to dean selling his soul.

[x5vale.livejournal.com]

I agree...is he leaving Sam behind? Probably yes. I just ask for understanding.

For 4 seasons I have tried to understand why Sam was living his brother behind.

You perfectly got the point...and everything goes all the way back to Sam leaving Dean and not listening to him in S2...yeah...

[cg-chevygirl.livejournal.com]

Ah it's working!

It's Saturday now and I'm not really in the mood to say a lot, but I loved the episode. Not for the story, because it was trouble and sad and I want good things to happen to Dean, but for the acting and the dialogue. It was fantastic. Jensen was fantastic. And I so laughed because of Castiel's voicemail. I should make one myself like that. *g*. He's funny.

I loved seeing Michael Shanks! He was in Smallville recently too. It's nice to see favorite actors in my favorite series.

So... not too short a message after all. Not going to read reviews this time because of your warning. I liked the episode and I don't want to read negative things. So yeah...

[x5vale.livejournal.com]

ITA!

The episode was too sad for words.

Jensen was brilliant and in the last scene he made me tear up.

LOve you

[lex-83.livejournal.com]

Awww. Thanks Val!

[x5vale.livejournal.com]

I hope you had a good one and it's nice to hear from you :)

[vella-amor-dm.livejournal.com]

i'm with you hun! i loved this episode so much and how they dealt with the issues and everything! seems the angstier things get, the more wanky fans become xD

SHALLOW NOTE: Jensen gets prettier and prettier!
glad i'm not the only one thinking this!!!

[x5vale.livejournal.com]

Jensen is Perfection!

*HUGS YOU*

[deanvica23.livejournal.com]

happy to see that you protect my dean. Sad to see that lot critic him since the 16. surprise that lisa return. dean is broken and i think yes before to say yes it want to see somebody that it loved, it need of love. Lisa and ben are the image of family for him. After dean love it lisà really i don't know.


in visiting dean_sam if you see walls on lisa dean link me please. love.

[x5vale.livejournal.com]

I always protect Dean. He owns me.

I will if I see them hon.

[betgirl.livejournal.com]

I really liked the episode, I think it's one of the strongest this season.

It's not a surprise that I agree with you. I don't know, but I guess there are people who don't want things to evolve. *sighs*

There are two things that bothered me in this episode, which have less to to with it than with my personal feelings and the way things seems to moving towards. It's a shame what they did to Castiel. You know I don't like him. Haven't liked him for a while and watching this episode one of the reasons why suddenly became very prominent. He's turning out to be merely a comic relief. Even in the scenes that were supposed to be more dramatic I got that feeling. I don't mind comic moments and sometimes they are necessary, but even funny characters should be more than what he's turning out to be.

The other thing that bothered me was that things really do seem to be heading towards Dean saying yes to Michael, which probably means Sam saying yes to Lucifer too. I really hoped that they wouldn't take that road. For me it seems like the easy way out. Sure, it can be seen as a sacrifice and all that, but I don't know. I wish I could explain more accurately why I'm not much of a fan of that. It's just something I feel in my gut. Of course that until it truly happens things can go another way and I can have hope that's not going to happen. Then again, this is not my show and I have to wait and see. After all, I might not like something, but it doesn't mean I can't/won't love the show because of it.

It amuses me greatly that what really stuck to me about the episode are those not so positive ones, ones that are not even directly related to the episode. Oh well, I really did like it.

[x5vale.livejournal.com]

Yep there are or they want another show.

He's turning out to be merely a comic relief.
I know what you mean. I hope tonight episode will show some more of castiel.
I still love him a lot but I hate how they are using him.

The other thing that bothered me was that things really do seem to be heading towards Dean saying yes to Michael, which probably means Sam saying yes to Lucifer too. I really hoped that they wouldn't take that road. For me it seems like the easy way out.
Like it was sending Dean in Hell. I have faith Dean will surprise us again, maybe in the finale.

After all, I might not like something, but it doesn't mean I can't/won't love the show because of it.
I wish people could have your attitude.

We love Dean, don't we?

Love you