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Some very interesting stuff, but spoiler ALERT!



OMG JENSEEEEEEENNNN...things you do to me...it's me, or he looks thinner? I like him even more than when he is more built up :)


































thanks to [livejournal.com profile] andreas_ri.More here.


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4.07 sides

Date: 2008-09-04 01:34 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] leelust.livejournal.com
Oh, no, don't start it, please! Did you read it on twop? I don't see Dean hits on that girl at all - he was just himself and pays attention - that's all. And he was offended by Sam's suggestion.
As to other things i think we better wait and see the actual eps and decide cos all we know is just small parts and we can't judge based on them.
Personally i don't worry - from the beginning Dean was written as supportive character and look who he became :)

Date: 2008-09-04 01:43 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fermina-d.livejournal.com
No I read the sides and they said that Dean eyed the girl (and I think to eye means to ogle, not just to look at); and Dean said "I would never do that, never is underlined in the script and since he just ogled her, to me it sounds like when you are making fun of someone and he said to you: "are you making fun of me" and you: "Me? I would never do something like that"... But it's just what you're doing.

Date: 2008-09-04 02:33 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] leelust.livejournal.com
Yeah, but just remember 102 - the way he reacted to Haily - if you'd read it in sides you could say the same but in the ep Dean never hit on her and never dodn't respect her - it was shown just that he like the way she looks. So i think it's the same here - he reacted to good looking woman - that's it. He doesn't think of hitting or molesting - it's brief joy of good look - nothing more (on my taste).
As to his 'never' - it looks to me that he doesn't make fun of the situation he was really offended the way he sometimes alloud us to see - hidden under the smirk mask.

Date: 2008-09-04 02:53 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fermina-d.livejournal.com
I do hope that it will be better than on the script or they better that will delete it.
To me it sounds like Dean is thinking to take advantage somehow of a person who is younger and vulnerable in that moment and I hate it.

Date: 2008-09-04 04:24 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] leelust.livejournal.com
I know what you mean but in Jensen i trust. there were no moments he failed Dean. And we didn't read all sides and even in S1 there were plenty of 'slippery' moments but he always played them right. If we can tell that Dean taking advantage of girl is OOC don't you think he won't notice that? I think either it'll be based on something we don't know yet hance will be justified or there's no ogling at all - just wrong choice of words from writers.

Date: 2008-09-04 04:54 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fermina-d.livejournal.com
Jensen is a professional. He will give to the writers and the director the Dean they want.

In Shadow (I think) Jensen thought that was out of character for Dean being that emo and opening do much with Sam. Kim Manners and the writers think it was not, they talked and Jensen played Dean the way they wanted him to.
They pay him for this.

So if they want Dea ogled a teenager Dean will do it and if they want Dean to say: "I would never do that" while thinking "you catch me! I was thinking to do that" (like it sound to me, and I hope I'm wrong)... Jensen will play Dean like that.

Date: 2008-09-05 08:05 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] leelust.livejournal.com
Yes, they do pay him and yes, he's professional but he's deep in character and he's smart enough to know what fits it and what's not. He was argued with Kim about that scene and was convinced to play as was asked only cos Kim convince Jensen that it's good for character. Kim is smart man too - i believe he convinced Jensen not with payment plan *giggles* but with logic and his look on character's development. So if they do that this time - based their opinion on logic - i'll agree with them and i think Jensen will agree with them. With Dean they didn't do something OOC or not logical through 3 seasons so far.

Date: 2008-09-04 02:22 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] overstreets.livejournal.com
from the beginning Dean was written as supportive character

Where did you read that? I was always under the impression that the story revolved around both from the beginning. I recall at a con he said something like even though it's about both, Dean has always been the hero of the tale.

Date: 2008-09-04 02:42 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] leelust.livejournal.com
It's my summed up expression, sorry i'm bad with links. But i remember Kripke once said that he was planning the story about Sam cos he writes Sam as himself and then he was needed a sidekick and there was Dean but then i think he process this thought more and decide to tell the story about 2 brothers instead cos it's more balancing to tell.
even though it's about both, Dean has always been the hero of the tale
Yeah, for me it was more like saying for the fans :) Anyway i don't think that Dean was always the hero of the day - for me it's them both are heroes of the day. it's just Sam is the gist of mytharic and it wasn't so balanced in that part but now when they decide to involve Dean in mytharic too i;d like to see what it'll be like cos it can be the balanced story again.

Date: 2008-09-05 09:58 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] x5vale.livejournal.com
Kripke said it himself in more than an interview. Dean changed at the very beginning, when they saw the potential the character had, also thanks to Jensen's acting.

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