HAPPY WEEKEND!

[x5vale]

Today I have so many Damon and Dean feelings! I can't wait to have them both back...but while I am super excited for TVD (DON'T SCREW UP THE SALVATORES RELATIONSHIP BTW), I am very much on the fence with SPN. I have the felling that a lot of the things they could have done will be wasted again. No, I am not talking about Dean being in Purgatory for half of the season, because this would have been totally unrealistic..plus last time they kept Dean and Sam apart (S6 since robo!Sam was not Sam), they ruined everything...what I don't want it's them ruining again the chance of a fair characters/storylines development.

A new argument is going on in fandom, about Dean, Cas and Sam being abusive. What do you think about it?


That being said, some Ian/Jensen fix.

This pic of Ian is so awesome:



And so is this Jensen one:

Comments

[lisichechka.livejournal.com]

Found the post! :)
Let's start it here again. Since i don't remember all exact examples of Cas being abusive can you give me at least couple of them?

[x5vale.livejournal.com]

Imo there is not an example. It was his attitude, especially at the beginning. He was an angel and he made advantage of it.

[lisichechka.livejournal.com]

Yes but in the beginning he didn't know humans and thought they are there just to follow God's order and that's it. I wouldn't call in advantage he just didn't get how human *works*.

[x5vale.livejournal.com]

Maybe, maybe not.

I dunno, I have learned to see Cas through a different point of view. Not feeling much love for him right now, so I might be biased.

[lisichechka.livejournal.com]

We all are biased :)
I tend to see him throough Dean's eyes and if Dean is ready to forgive him i'm ready too. There's also a thing that i like Cas on his own. He hurt Dean yes but he admitted it (thing sam never actually did) and he sees Dean and his flaws and in a way is trying to open Dean's eyes. That talk in the car when Cas didn't remember he's Cas and he talked about himself and Dean and that Dean deserves better was heart-warming.

[x5vale.livejournal.com]

I don't see him through Dean's eyes, never done it. So for me basically because he betrayed Dean in a way I can't tolerate, he has a long redemption road ahead before I can again trust and love him as I used to do.

At this point, while Sam is a character I am totally indifferent about, I am on still on the fence with Cas.

[lisichechka.livejournal.com]

I wasn't clear on that. I see him thoought Dean's eyes when Dean interacts with him but i have my own perception of Cas too.
I know what you mean and in a way i feel about him the same.
The thing for me is i want to see that road to redemption and i want them to be together in the end cause i know that Dean needs Cas as a friend. It's the only friend he has anyway. And that fact Cas still sees something in Dean others never saw makes me feel better aboout that character. it doesn't excuse his bad behaviour but it gives him some points you know.

[lisichechka.livejournal.com]

Oops, didn't see that last sentence.
I'm on the fence too in a way but i tend to hope Cas won't betray *my* hopes and if so i want to see how he'll see Dean now after everything they've been through and how things in purgatory went. The thing is i want to know more about cas to judge him (in opposite to sam whom i don't care at all and only want to be as far from Dean as possible).

[x5vale.livejournal.com]

We do agree, I tend to hope it too.

[lisichechka.livejournal.com]

I hope they won't write Cas as leaving Dean in Purgatory cause it's OOC for Cas. And i hope they won't write Dean as some unforgiving asshole cause we know Dean was this close to firgive cas for what he's done. So my fingers crossed even if carver is no help :/

[x5vale.livejournal.com]

Why? What did he say?

Anyway I don't think Dean is not going to forgive Cas. He has already forgiven him actually..in his own way. Dean has leraned that it's not useful and good to waste the time you spend with your beloved ones being mad at them.

[lisichechka.livejournal.com]

IKR! I'm just afraid they forget about that.
But we also don't know what happened in purgatory - if cas disappeared and Dean doesn't know he had to and did it not on his own volition Dean could think Cas left him therenand it may play role into him forgiving Cas. But he'll do eventually. Cause it's Dean :)