MY THANK YOU POST TO ERIC KRIPKE
May. 21st, 2010 10:00 am![[personal profile]](https://www.dreamwidth.org/img/silk/identity/user.png){kind=small}
x5valeFew thoughts, just to get them off my chest, written a couple of days after the finale and not very coherent :)
I feel like I have lost something very important for me. This is because the show as I know and love it, won’t ever come back.
I think that what will happen at the beginning of the new season is easily predictable and honestly I don't mind. I mean, whatever they will do, the show will be a new one for me because, imo, Kripke finished is story.
If Dean will give up hunting and Sam will hunt and then they will come back together, they will be two different persons, different from the ones they were 5 years ago. Their relationship will be different and this is a whole new show for me. In a good way.
So back to my point: imho Kripke gave the show the closure he has always wanted to. He told us the story of these two brothers, showing us how they were able to grow up and overcome their own fears and issues.
Sam finally embraced his destiny and chose to redeem himself, sacrificing himself. What else could Sam do? The moment they decided for that plan, he knew, we all knew he was doomed. I think that was an easy way out and that it didn’t do Sam justice, but I loved the journey the little brother made to accept who he was and how much important was his family for him. To finally admit that Dean was the most important thing in his life, more than anything else.
I think the last scene, if Sam is Sam (and I am pretty sure KRIPKE has left that open so that Gamble could write her own story), means that Sam has to let Dean go as much as Dean has to let him go.
Sam has never given up on Dean (not in Faith, not in S3, not in Point of No Return) because Dean has always been part of his life. Now for Sam too is time to be on his own.
Dean closed his journey too, coming to accept that he couldn’t save everyone. Yes, as Dean said in S1, he is the one who buried all his family and the price he is paying, to be the one who has been left behind, won’t ever allow Dean to be completely happy.
Anyway I think that Kripke was trying to tell us that there was still hope. They left Dean hopeless until 5.18 and for this they were all losing. Now they have all lost something, but on a personal level they have also won. Sam because he finally accepted himself, Dean because he finally accepted to be free.
Why did he have to lose everything in order to be free? Because Dean is a hero and plot wise there isn’t a hero who has been completely and utterly happy. He will adjust to his new life, he will even succeed in it even though in a little part of his heart he will always miss something.
Is it negative? For me it’s just human. Dean’s greatest fear was to lose his family, but what he wanted the most was not to lose his humanity. He got it, he pays the price, forever.
A friend asked me how I feel now since I have always thought that Dean would have died in the finale. I told her that I am happy he didn’t because with him alive the finale showed me the absolute unbelievable strength that Dean Winchester has. He wanted to die or bring Sam back, but he didn’t do any of that. He drowned in his sufferance and allowed himself some comfort and a chance to have a normal life.
How strong has to be a person to live a life he doesn’t want to fully live? How strong has to be to deal day by day with the pain and the desperation until he adjusts to live with these feelings and they will turn in something subtle?
For me Kripke was telling us that there is still hope, even when everything is lost. If you want to see it, depends on you and on how strong you are. There’s no comfort for the weaks, there’s no relief. So all of this heartbroke me, but at the same time, if the series had ended like that, I would have been satisfied.
I am afraid next season will screw up with all of this. That’s why I consider this the end of SPN because both the boys had their closure. Both the boys lost and won at the same time.
I have never felt like that about a tv show. Even when they screwed up with X Files or when Buffy and Angel ended. I felt pissed off when Dark Angel got cancelled because Alec didn’t have the chance to show all his potential as a character. I have never felt like that because while with my other shows, I have loved the shows more than the characters, with SPN I love the characters more than the show. In Buffy for example I was never fond of any of the characters (but Angel) and I was never emotionally involved. At least not as much as I am with SPN. SPN is all about the characters. If they ruins them, they spoil the show for me. I am not talking about what they do, the screen time or the big arch. I’m talking about their integrity as persons. If they follow the path that has been written for them on an a personal level, I don’t care about who saves the day or about the plot. That’s why I didn’t want Dean to say yes. It would have been the denial of Dean Winchester and his beliefs. SPn didn’t do that to the characters, no if I look at the bigger picture that for me it was so clear in the finale.
What will come next is a big puzzle, but I am willing to enjoy the ride, because as![[livejournal.com profile]](https://www.dreamwidth.org/img/external/lj-userinfo.gif)
jellicle and gaelicspirit said:
That's insane but I love Dean as if he was real, and I can't abandon him because I can't abandon a friend, I can't abandon him. It's exhausting, it hurts, it breaks my heart again and again and again, I get angry in many occasions because life is not fair to him, but I can't leave him. My beloved Dean.
and
I just want a hero who is real and who is broken and who never stops fighting and who loves and who hates and who lives and bleeds and despairs and rejoices and gets dirty and cleans up and looks good doing every single one of those things. I want the escape and I want to fall in love each week and I want to be inspired. And I have been. I have been 100 times over
That’s what SPN has been for me in the last five years.
SUPERNATURAL has been a great, intense, powerful emotional journey and at the end of the day, this is what is important to me.
I think Kripke deserves a big THANK YOU for it.
I feel like I have lost something very important for me. This is because the show as I know and love it, won’t ever come back.
I think that what will happen at the beginning of the new season is easily predictable and honestly I don't mind. I mean, whatever they will do, the show will be a new one for me because, imo, Kripke finished is story.
If Dean will give up hunting and Sam will hunt and then they will come back together, they will be two different persons, different from the ones they were 5 years ago. Their relationship will be different and this is a whole new show for me. In a good way.
So back to my point: imho Kripke gave the show the closure he has always wanted to. He told us the story of these two brothers, showing us how they were able to grow up and overcome their own fears and issues.
Sam finally embraced his destiny and chose to redeem himself, sacrificing himself. What else could Sam do? The moment they decided for that plan, he knew, we all knew he was doomed. I think that was an easy way out and that it didn’t do Sam justice, but I loved the journey the little brother made to accept who he was and how much important was his family for him. To finally admit that Dean was the most important thing in his life, more than anything else.
I think the last scene, if Sam is Sam (and I am pretty sure KRIPKE has left that open so that Gamble could write her own story), means that Sam has to let Dean go as much as Dean has to let him go.
Sam has never given up on Dean (not in Faith, not in S3, not in Point of No Return) because Dean has always been part of his life. Now for Sam too is time to be on his own.
Dean closed his journey too, coming to accept that he couldn’t save everyone. Yes, as Dean said in S1, he is the one who buried all his family and the price he is paying, to be the one who has been left behind, won’t ever allow Dean to be completely happy.
Anyway I think that Kripke was trying to tell us that there was still hope. They left Dean hopeless until 5.18 and for this they were all losing. Now they have all lost something, but on a personal level they have also won. Sam because he finally accepted himself, Dean because he finally accepted to be free.
Why did he have to lose everything in order to be free? Because Dean is a hero and plot wise there isn’t a hero who has been completely and utterly happy. He will adjust to his new life, he will even succeed in it even though in a little part of his heart he will always miss something.
Is it negative? For me it’s just human. Dean’s greatest fear was to lose his family, but what he wanted the most was not to lose his humanity. He got it, he pays the price, forever.
A friend asked me how I feel now since I have always thought that Dean would have died in the finale. I told her that I am happy he didn’t because with him alive the finale showed me the absolute unbelievable strength that Dean Winchester has. He wanted to die or bring Sam back, but he didn’t do any of that. He drowned in his sufferance and allowed himself some comfort and a chance to have a normal life.
How strong has to be a person to live a life he doesn’t want to fully live? How strong has to be to deal day by day with the pain and the desperation until he adjusts to live with these feelings and they will turn in something subtle?
For me Kripke was telling us that there is still hope, even when everything is lost. If you want to see it, depends on you and on how strong you are. There’s no comfort for the weaks, there’s no relief. So all of this heartbroke me, but at the same time, if the series had ended like that, I would have been satisfied.
I am afraid next season will screw up with all of this. That’s why I consider this the end of SPN because both the boys had their closure. Both the boys lost and won at the same time.
I have never felt like that about a tv show. Even when they screwed up with X Files or when Buffy and Angel ended. I felt pissed off when Dark Angel got cancelled because Alec didn’t have the chance to show all his potential as a character. I have never felt like that because while with my other shows, I have loved the shows more than the characters, with SPN I love the characters more than the show. In Buffy for example I was never fond of any of the characters (but Angel) and I was never emotionally involved. At least not as much as I am with SPN. SPN is all about the characters. If they ruins them, they spoil the show for me. I am not talking about what they do, the screen time or the big arch. I’m talking about their integrity as persons. If they follow the path that has been written for them on an a personal level, I don’t care about who saves the day or about the plot. That’s why I didn’t want Dean to say yes. It would have been the denial of Dean Winchester and his beliefs. SPn didn’t do that to the characters, no if I look at the bigger picture that for me it was so clear in the finale.
What will come next is a big puzzle, but I am willing to enjoy the ride, because as
jellicle and gaelicspirit said:That's insane but I love Dean as if he was real, and I can't abandon him because I can't abandon a friend, I can't abandon him. It's exhausting, it hurts, it breaks my heart again and again and again, I get angry in many occasions because life is not fair to him, but I can't leave him. My beloved Dean.
and
I just want a hero who is real and who is broken and who never stops fighting and who loves and who hates and who lives and bleeds and despairs and rejoices and gets dirty and cleans up and looks good doing every single one of those things. I want the escape and I want to fall in love each week and I want to be inspired. And I have been. I have been 100 times over
That’s what SPN has been for me in the last five years.
SUPERNATURAL has been a great, intense, powerful emotional journey and at the end of the day, this is what is important to me.
I think Kripke deserves a big THANK YOU for it.
