Rambling, thinking about SPN....
Nov. 13th, 2012 11:27 am![[personal profile]](https://www.dreamwidth.org/img/silk/identity/user.png){kind=small}
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How are you doing flist?
I've been pretty busy and honestly with not much to say.
I've been caught up on Twitter and Tumblr by my Haven family and wow...it feels so good. We are few, we get along and we just ignore the wank.
It was a long time since I have felt that way fandom wise. I have never wanted to be involved in the TVD fandom because it's like the SPN one (even though they say they are not, trust me they are LOL)...lots of bashing, wank and wasting time badmouthing all the characters they don't like. It's Damon vs Stefan exactly like it's Dean vs Sam. Of course not the entire fandom! Some comms are safe places to just discuss the show.
Speaking of SPN...I just have all the brotherly bond feels....
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More about SPN and Sam under the cut. Of course it's just my take on Sam and Sam girls are going to disagree.
... because after two seasons in which I didn't feel anything about this show anymore, now I have all the feels back. The thing is I have all the brotherly love feels and the show is destryoing this bond once again.
I don't blame Carver. I blame Kripke and mostly Sera Gamble. Kripke has never been able to give to Sam the characterization he wanted. The description of who Sam should have been and who he is don't match. I see all the positive traits of Sam which are pointed out by his fans. I do. But those positive things are gone. Gamble kinda erased them when she tried to picture Sam as the perfect character who can't do wrong. The result was a flat character without any kind of growth.
We haven't never really seen SPN developing Sam inner turmoil or personal growth journey in years now.
Where is he now? I am torn. Some times I think he is really just trying to re-adjust after a year alone but most of the times I think he doesn't give a damn about his brother...the final scene of Southern Comfort is cruel for a fan who has loved the brotherly bond more than anything else in this show. It was because there Sam was just shutting Dean out. He was telling him that he didn't care. Not once, since Dean is back, I have seen Sam symphatizing with his brother. Not once. No matter what the explanation will be. This is not something I can forget and I don't want Dean to forget it either, unless it's properly addressed and discussed. No wonder Dean now thinks that Benny is the only one he can rely on.
Sam can do whatever he wants, seriously. He is entitled to choose for himself, to give up, to retire and live an apple-pie life. I don't agree with this choice, but I respect it.
What Sam can't do is blaming other people for the choices he has made and for the ones he is not making. I just want him to choose, I want him to address his feelings and his issues. To vomit them out, but then...then I want him to stop and actually listen. Because Sam doesn't listen. He doesn't want to know what's going on with his brother. He just wants Dean to say that everything it's ok, so he can move on.
I think they both carry the blame for what happened to their relationship, but honestly I do really think that at this point, it's not Dean who can be the understanding one. It's not Dean the one who has to get over his own issues, because this is the very first time he is finally admitting all of them. It's Sam's turn to show if he is mature enough to deal with them. It's Sam who has to show if he really cares about his brother, because right now the vibe I get is that Sam doesn't care enough. He doesn't see through his brother.
Challenging him on Benny is likely the most stupid thing he could have done, because this way he is pushing Dean away. If he used that as an emotional manipulation (as he has always done with Dean), he failed miserably because Dean's reaction was exactly the opposite. Dean took it and without a word, he said that they can't be on the same side on this.
How are the writers going to fix this? They can, I think, but they need to be brave and totally honest facing the fact that they probably are dealing with a character whose charcterization has been like that since the very beginning.
Those things a lot of Sam fans disliked about him in S4 have always been there. Since S1, since Asylum, since Scarecrow...Sam is still turning against his family, but he 's not the kid who left for Standford anymore. It's time for him to grow up because I think he hasn't when it comes to his relationship with his family.
How are you doing flist?
I've been pretty busy and honestly with not much to say.
I've been caught up on Twitter and Tumblr by my Haven family and wow...it feels so good. We are few, we get along and we just ignore the wank.
It was a long time since I have felt that way fandom wise. I have never wanted to be involved in the TVD fandom because it's like the SPN one (even though they say they are not, trust me they are LOL)...lots of bashing, wank and wasting time badmouthing all the characters they don't like. It's Damon vs Stefan exactly like it's Dean vs Sam. Of course not the entire fandom! Some comms are safe places to just discuss the show.
Speaking of SPN...I just have all the brotherly bond feels....
source
More about SPN and Sam under the cut. Of course it's just my take on Sam and Sam girls are going to disagree.
... because after two seasons in which I didn't feel anything about this show anymore, now I have all the feels back. The thing is I have all the brotherly love feels and the show is destryoing this bond once again.
I don't blame Carver. I blame Kripke and mostly Sera Gamble. Kripke has never been able to give to Sam the characterization he wanted. The description of who Sam should have been and who he is don't match. I see all the positive traits of Sam which are pointed out by his fans. I do. But those positive things are gone. Gamble kinda erased them when she tried to picture Sam as the perfect character who can't do wrong. The result was a flat character without any kind of growth.
We haven't never really seen SPN developing Sam inner turmoil or personal growth journey in years now.
Where is he now? I am torn. Some times I think he is really just trying to re-adjust after a year alone but most of the times I think he doesn't give a damn about his brother...the final scene of Southern Comfort is cruel for a fan who has loved the brotherly bond more than anything else in this show. It was because there Sam was just shutting Dean out. He was telling him that he didn't care. Not once, since Dean is back, I have seen Sam symphatizing with his brother. Not once. No matter what the explanation will be. This is not something I can forget and I don't want Dean to forget it either, unless it's properly addressed and discussed. No wonder Dean now thinks that Benny is the only one he can rely on.
Sam can do whatever he wants, seriously. He is entitled to choose for himself, to give up, to retire and live an apple-pie life. I don't agree with this choice, but I respect it.
What Sam can't do is blaming other people for the choices he has made and for the ones he is not making. I just want him to choose, I want him to address his feelings and his issues. To vomit them out, but then...then I want him to stop and actually listen. Because Sam doesn't listen. He doesn't want to know what's going on with his brother. He just wants Dean to say that everything it's ok, so he can move on.
I think they both carry the blame for what happened to their relationship, but honestly I do really think that at this point, it's not Dean who can be the understanding one. It's not Dean the one who has to get over his own issues, because this is the very first time he is finally admitting all of them. It's Sam's turn to show if he is mature enough to deal with them. It's Sam who has to show if he really cares about his brother, because right now the vibe I get is that Sam doesn't care enough. He doesn't see through his brother.
Challenging him on Benny is likely the most stupid thing he could have done, because this way he is pushing Dean away. If he used that as an emotional manipulation (as he has always done with Dean), he failed miserably because Dean's reaction was exactly the opposite. Dean took it and without a word, he said that they can't be on the same side on this.
How are the writers going to fix this? They can, I think, but they need to be brave and totally honest facing the fact that they probably are dealing with a character whose charcterization has been like that since the very beginning.
Those things a lot of Sam fans disliked about him in S4 have always been there. Since S1, since Asylum, since Scarecrow...Sam is still turning against his family, but he 's not the kid who left for Standford anymore. It's time for him to grow up because I think he hasn't when it comes to his relationship with his family.
