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TVD THE DEPARTED:where Damon Salvatore broke my heart...because it hurts how much he loves.
I haven't cried over a TV Show since I think the finale of SPN S3...and today I have cried...a lot..more under the cut.
Alaric
I knew he would have been the one to die, but I can't realize it.I mean it's Ric, Damon's best friend and he died, in Damon's arms...no more bromance, no more friendship. I can't even...
RIP RIC.
Rebekah&Eljiah
They broke me when REbekah toldto her older brother that Klaus was dead. You could see what family meant to them, even though Klaus has betrayed them on so many levels I can't even count them. I want them around and safe forever. I just love these two.
Klaus
It was pretty obvious to me that he wouldn't have stayed dead for too long. Now he inhabitates Tyler's body...does it mean that Joseph Morgan won't be back? Unless Bonnie has somehow saved Klaus body, it should have been burned...so I am very curious about this.
Anyway I am glad he is not dead. This character has a great potential and I want to see it developed.
Matt
Oh Matt, I so love this guy. He was the only one who could have given up on everything and left town, but he stayed there because that is his place, his home. I loved how he tried to help Elena in every possible way, even with her choice and I do really hope he is not gone.
Jeremy
Much love for him too. When Ric asked for his help, I was afraid he was going to betray all the others, but he didn't. He was honest and he helped with the plan. I do really think Elena should learn from him how to handle very hard decisions.
Bonnie
Love for her too. She decided to stand up for herself and what she wants and not to obey to others orders or desires. She went dark when she decided to save Klaus, but she did to save her friends. I loved how Bonnie was aware of the consenquences of her choice and I appreciated that she was finally able to admit that sometimes you have to make questionable decisions for the greater good.
Caroline&Tyler
I have never shipped them and I don't, but I really enjoyed the two of them together..even if they looked a little bit disconnected from all the others.
Loved Caroline with Elena though.
Stefan
I don't have much to say about him...he was there, letting the others to decide and to organize. He was not pro-active and this is very Stefan,I can't blame him for this. I liked how he was around Elena and I felt his pain when he was speaking to Damon. I could see the brotherly love.
Let me just add this: Elena wasn't enough for Stefan to fight his desire of revenge. Elena was enough for Damon to fight Ric back and live...just saying'
Elena
The flashbacks broke me. How she is still alive surprises me. Her life was normal, maybe not exciting, but safe and now..now she is not the same anymore.
Did she make a choice? Yes, she chose Stefan as I have been thinking for a while. She chose Stefan by default. She didn't choose him because of him. Because of his qualities, of his personality. She chose him because it was safe, because Stefan is her bond to her previous life. He is her last connection to her parents, Stefan is the guy who helped her to live again. She can be happy with him...but she won't ever feel the fire. Not the fire of passion, which is something that passes, but the fire of true love. The one which consumes you.
So I do think Elena will feel it eventually and I am not sure we are going to have Elena and Stefan living happily so easily. She will remember when she first met Damon, she will remember what Damon told her in 2.08? She will...and she will have to deal with it and with her magnified feelings (because there is no doubt that she will turn, otherwise she will be dead)
What about her with Damon? She was in denial. She didn't say she loves him, she said she cares about him and this is denial, but I'm not mad at her. I feel sorry for her because she's depriving herself of something intense and pure that she deserves to feel. I think her journey to fully accept Damon in her life is not complete, not yet. This triangle couldn't be over with Elena picking Damon now...because they have spent 3 seasons to build up their relationship, but Elena has never explored her feelings for Damon for real. She relies on her love for Stefan, because Stefan was there when she needed someone the most and now, in desperate times, it's easier to get back to him (I don't even want to talk about the fact that everything Stefan has done has been forgiven -bad characterization- but I do think that everything Damon has done too has been forgiven...)...so yeah I am not disappointed by Elena choice. It's about getting there, falling in love with Damon eventually. She is still getting there.
Damon.
All my tears were for him. Serioulsy. He broke me in every possible way. Give me a fucked up character, the character who never wins, who is never allowed to some happiness, who wears his "I am unbreakable" mask all the time and then breaks and feels much more than everyone else, who is vulnerable and loves as none else and I am doomed.
Dean Winchester and Damon Salvatore are the only two characters I have fallen so hard for...and both of them are two tortured souls who can't ever have what they deserve.
I loved that when Ric was beating the crap out of him, he was remembering the first time he saw Elena and it kinda gave him the strenght to react and fight. When Ric attacked him, after Elena told him she was setting him free, he was giving up, he was almost surrending then exactly when Elena had the car accident, he remembered his first encounter with her...and he told her what she wanted and it was exactly what Elena told Matt about Damon. A love that consumes. How prophetic! This gave him the strenght to fight Ric back..Damn he loves her so much it hurts....
How about the fact that while Elena was dying, the focus was Damon's reaction to it? He had Ric in his arms dying and he immediately realized that Elena was dying too and you could see all the horror and the pain on his face...so even though Damon and Elena were not together in this episode, imo they were way closer than Stefan and Elena.
Damon broke me because once again his hopes were shattered and his heart was wounded, his vulnerability showed but despite all of this, he was able to put himself together, get back to MF to see her...and his face when Meredith told him she had helped her? Broke me again, because if there is something that Elena didn't want, was to lose her human status...and now...everything is about to change. For Damon too.
Random thoughts:
-I loved how Damon protected Rebekah from Alaric and told her to run.
-I enjoy more and more the interaction between Damon and Meredith.
-I loved how Carol and Liz tried to protect their kids.
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*group hug*
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agree so much with everything here, although i must say, i actually laughed when Elena woke up again. i am going to find season 4 very interesting. so so glad the Originals are not out of commission - i quite like having them around, esp Elijah and Rebekah (and Klaus if he can learn to grow up!)
well-spotted with the fact that Elena is going to remember all the things Damon compelled her to forget. she is going to fall for him hard in season 4 - should be very interesting, and real this time round.
i have so many feelings right now, and i can't really express them without repeating everything you just said. it was a good episode. i'm happy with everything that happened :)
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I need TVD hugs :))))
I can't wait to see what's up next...this show has still me hooked up.
I know, I have so many feelings right now too....
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My response is well, growing huge to say the lest so I think I'll just post a reaction/review on my own LJ, lol, otherwise, I'll need like seven posts to say everything. *g*
Dean Winchester and Damon Salvatore are the only two characters I have fallen so hard for...and both of them are two tortured souls who can't ever have what they deserve.
THIS!!!!!! Guh!!
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Damon&Dean...want fic!
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The producers really hedged their bets with Ric showing up as a ghost and telling Jeremy he'd be sticking around to watch over him. That gives them the option of having Ric return, which is great, though it won't be the same. *sob*
So, okay, it was clever for Bonnie to hide Klaus inside Tyler. But with Klaus's body having burned up, it's so not the same. Either get rid of Klaus or bring Joseph back! I was expecting it to be some kind of a witch illusion, and that Klaus's body wasn't really there. But I don't know, they really made it look like it was destroyed. *nervous*
I do love how the mayor and the sheriff pulled the mom card out and cared more about protecting their children than anything else.
Elena's choice was predictable and safe, even if she tried to make it seem like it was about some grand love. But what a twist to discover it was Damon she met first.
Of course, the BIG twist is that there was no reason for her to choose in the first place - she's going to become a vampire! I heard that Elena does become a vamp in the books, but I really didn't expect it to happen before the end of the series. This is really a game-changer.
Oh, Elena, you're going to discover that eternity with the same guy is going to get old! LOL! No sense being a vampire and not allowing yourself the chance to play the field. ;)
It'll be interesting to see how they differentiate between Elena the vamp and Katherine the vamp.
I'm glad it was Meredith in trying to save Elena who was responsible for Elena turning, and not Damon or someone like that. So if she's going to blame anyone, it's disposable Meredith, which is better than it being either of the Salvatores.
Pins and needles until next year!
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Joseph will be back. I think Bonnie did something to preserve Klaus original body.
I want Elena to stay true to herself once she changes. I don't want her to become different. She has to keep herself human some how. I know some D/E fans are upset because they wanted huma!Elena to be with Damon...but I don't care. I just want to see the journey and see how many times Damon will be broken again.
About who turned Elena, yes Meredith is the one who caused it and I want to see some love for her, because she just couldn't let her die...it would have been unfair.
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It will be interesting to see how things change and everyone reacts to Elena now things are so different
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I am just too in love with Damon....
3x22 review: part 1
My focus here is on the scenes I really enjoyed in the finale and the characters involved in them. I will undoubtedly wander a bit, but I’ll try to stay on track. :)
Foremost, I love how Jeremy took matters into his own hands and immediately took Elena to the hospital after she collapsed. Hooray for common sense!! Also liked how he called the Salvatores and if I were to guess, I’d say it was Damon he called from the hospital even though it was on speaker phone. Wasn’t it? I can’t remember exactly and for the first half of the episode the CW channel was having issues. Oh well, moving on. It was also really enjoyed the interaction, even via phone, between Damon and Jeremy. Damon points out the obvious that vampires have blood that heals around and Jeremy countering how when his sister collapsed for unknown reasons, getting her to the hospital was the smartest thing. Of course, there’s the little issue of Evil Alaric on the loose and Orignals who would want Elena dead since her life is bound to Ric’s and so Damon orders Jeremy to get Elena home quickly and says they’re on their way. And Jeremy obeys. Have I said how much I love the bond between these two? Cause I really, really do! And Jeremy was really grown up in this episode, imo and it makes me so proud! :D
There is a lot more I have to say about Jer, but I’ll save it for later when I get to the relevant scenes. :) Gonna talk about Meredith now.
Meredith has been slowing growing on me and I appreciate what she is bringing to the show in her last few appearances. This episode was no exception. She only had three scenes, but each one is important in its own right. Her first is with Jeremy outside Elena’s room. Don’t know about anyone else, but I immediately picked up on her lying to Jeremy about how badly injured his sister was. Jeremy was suspicious too but, unfortunately, Elena has continued to keep Jeremy out of the loop and so he has no idea that Meredith used vampire blood to heal his sister. What this scene tells me, however, is that Meredith like everyone else save Matt sees Jeremy as a kid still. One could argue Damon doesn’t see Jeremy as much as a kid as some of the others, but he also tells Jeremy the truth and was the first to accept Jeremy taking action and being a part of the shenanigans going on in Mystic Falls in S2. Anyway, back to Meredith. This scene nicely contrasts with Meredith’s final scene with Damon. There is no lying to Damon, no deception. Like Sheriff Liz Forbes and Mayor Carol Lockwood, she has respect for Damon as another adult and someone who could be considered a friend. There was a similar scene several episodes back when Liz gave it straight to Ric about why he was in jail with Damon present. Damon is clearly viewed as an adult, while the rest of the Mystic Falls gang are viewed, and view each other, as kids still. And it’s become painfully clear, especially through Jeremy, Matt, and surprisingly, Bonnie’s respective character arcs this season. Everyone else is in denialville.
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SO MUCH THIS TO EVERY SINGLE WORD IN THIS FIRST COMMENT OF YOURS!!!
I don't remember who Jeremy called, but of course the interaction was pretty much just between him and Damon. Have I mention lately how much I do love these two together?
Yes yes yes on everything you said about the status Damon gained among the adults in MF. Carol, Liz and Meredith know Damon can be trusted and can actually act and make decisions for the best.
I so love that outside the gang, Damon has owned so much respect and even affection (from Liz for istance).
Meredith has grown on me so much now...I just want her to stick around and actually become Damon's friend.
I'll keep replying soon....btw I posted some more thoughts and I'd like to know what you think :)
3x22 review: part 2
Let’s talk about Matt next.
Matt continues his awesome streak in this episode and I really, really hope he survives through S4. He’s the only normal MF gang member left so his presence next season will be needed even more to ground everyone else as everything changes again.
First big scene I really want to focus on is Matt’s chat with Jeremy after Alaric talks with him. Unfortunately I missed most of it thanks to the channel being all wacko, but what I did see I loved. Matt did for Jeremy exactly what he did for Elena: he listened to their feelings and confusion and offered a safe place to reveal that. Also, I really love how involved he was in the plans and going ons of this episode since in the last one he only had one scene at the end. Matt, like Jeremy and Bonnie is taking a more proactive approach in current matters and it’s great to see. He was also the one who confronted Stefan about letting Elena make rash decisions with life altering consequences after having a head injury no less (LOVE LOVE LOVE that Damon was the one who remembered and pointed it out during the conference call) and that alone makes me want to kiss Matt. Thank you Matt! I’m so glad that was addressed because, like Damon said to Bonnie, Elena tends to make very bad decisions especially about who to trust and risks the lives of those around her unnecessarily, her own life even more so. Elijah has betrayed them how many times now? And Rebekah? Kinda a wild card and definitely not a fan of Elena. Let me think; is it really a good idea to make yet another deal with them??? No!
I also have a little theory growing about Matt and Jeremy. Personally, I think they feel that if Elena has to be with one of the Salvatore brothers, they prefer Damon. Matt pointedly said as he was driving Elena out of town that Damon is not in town and he seemed inclined to believe Elena would want a chance to say goodbye to Damon one they learn that Klaus was ‘killed’. Now, considering Jeremy and Matt planned this together and seemed to be heading straight for Damon…I’d say Matt and Jeremy are most definitely on Damon’s side. Not to mention neither boy seems to like Stefan that much. Just saying. That’s my theory and I’m sticking to it!
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re Matt:
I love his evolution this season. His presence keeps everyone grounded. I think he is the best friend someone can ask for. He's always there, for ecah one of them.
He was also the one who confronted Stefan about letting Elena make rash decisions with life altering consequences after having a head injury no less (LOVE LOVE LOVE that Damon was the one who remembered and pointed it out during the conference call) and that alone makes me want to kiss Matt.
THIS! Common sense it's not of everone in MF, but Matt surely knows what it is :)
It was so stupid to make a deal with the Originals, one way or another someone is going to die..and this time it was Elena...
Personally, I think they feel that if Elena has to be with one of the Salvatore brothers, they prefer Damon.
I agree. Matt and Jeremy may like to have Elena with a normal guy, but since they know her and that she is in love with a vampire, they'd go for Damon because they trust him more.
They know Damon would protect Elena no matter what...they both saw Stefan gave up on Elena just because he wanted his revenge on Klaus.
3x22 review: part 3
So I suppose I should talk about Stefan now. Stefan is, unfortunately, on my bad list because of the sheer manipulation and lies he tells Elena. His scenes with her tonight made me want to puke. Just…nu uh. Not working for me. Utterly failure on the writers part for making Stefan face the consequences of his actions and having a chance to mature and grow. BUT, he did have some good moments in regards to his brother. Definitely feeling the love between the brothers, which is nice. Not much else to say there.
Now for Bonnie. Bonnie, like Matt and Jeremy, is coming into her own in this episode and making decisions based on what she wants and decides, not what she is told to do. Very nice to see Bonnie gaining some independence as a witch and a woman. Her character arc next year should be very interesting depending on how it plays out. I must say I cheered when she said screw the witch spirits, they didn’t control her anymore because honestly, they have been just as controlling, more so actually considering they’ve possessed her twice to do what they wanted and left Bonnie vulnerable each time to a vampire drinking her blood (though I will honestly say Damon’s reaction while wrong was more sympathetic considering Emily, using Bonnie, betrayed Damon and broke her word). If I were Bonnie, I’d say screw the witch spirits too. And considering the horror that Klaus put Bonnie through and what the other Originals have done as well as the Salvatores…yeah, it will be good to see her take charge of herself. My hope for her now is that she learns that by taking that position, responsibility rests solely with her for her choices and the consequences. No more blaming Damon for everything. Time to grow up and mature. I’m also curious how accessing black magic from the last episode will change her. She is strong enough, I think, to handle it, but not alone.
Question: why was she with Damon at the storage locker and taking a gander at Klaus aside from the writers’ obvious need to have her there to perform a witchy spell to save Klaus’ soul and therefore not kill all our vampire heroes?? Something about a tracking spell?
I don’t really have anything to say about Tyler and Caroline. I like them just fine, but truthfully they are two characters I could give or take and I didn’t really care for their scenes. But I do have lots of love for their mothers who just want to protect them. Really, Carol and Liz both shone in that scene, their fear and love and desperation. And worst of all, they don’t know what has happened to Alaric. At least it hasn’t been confirmed whether they knew. Poor dears! My heart went out to the two mothers who so dearly love their children and also juggle difficult jobs. And they have survived the season! Hooray!! I adore Liz and Carol, Liz more so and I hope we see more of them and how they cope with the fallout in the next season.
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Agreed on Stefan too. He was just flat, useless. They onley moments I truly enjoyed was when he was talking to his brother. It's like Damon brings out the best from him.
I agree with you about Bonnie. Let's see if she evolves and grow up. I also think there is the risk she goes dark, but I would like to see her journey too.
So much love for Liz and carol, two mothers who wants to be there for their children no matter what in opposition to a mother, Abby, who's always on the run.
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3x22 review: part 4
Anywho, back on point. Damon and the conference phone call. Ha! His reaction was spot on not to mention the one they should have listened to. Hee, and I loved the surprise of him speaking up from the phone on the table when he couldn’t actually be present for the conference with Elijah. Another question though: why was trusting Elijah and handing Klaus’ body over to him and the other two siblings HER decision? I feel that by giving Elena all that power, it severely undercut just what everyone else has gone through during Klaus’ reign of terror. It should have been a group decision I feel, because while Klaus obviously needs Elena for his own ends, everyone else was at just as much risk. Matt and Damon both voiced valid concerns based on prior experience with Elijah. Not to mention, Elena’s deals and decisions in these situations have almost always led to her being in more danger and the endangerment and often death or injury of those around her. Its not completely her fault and I even agree with some of her decisions, but I think that considering how confused and in denial she has been it makes her one of the worst people to make a decision at this juncture. Which brings me full circle to Damon and Bonnie in the storage and Damon complaining to Bonnie about Elena selling their souls to the Originals because honestly, that certainly what she did. It was essentially a demon deal only unlike Crowley or the Crossroads Demon there was no chance of it actually being upheld. Ashamed as Elijah may be, that shame has not stopped him from doing what he has done and rescinding on his word time and time again. Bonnie, I was annoyed to notice, said it was her choice. Um, no, its not. She is not the queen and ruler of all. Damon, Matt, Jeremy, Caroline, Tyler, and even Stefan have the right to choose their own fates. Sure, they all care about her but that doesn’t immediately make her an authority on what’s best for them. The only one she has any decision power for that I support is her little brother, Jeremy. Everyone else? No.
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It annoys me how people leave Elena make decisions about Klaus, as if the Klaus thing is only about Elena. Yes, he is a threat for her but he was for everyone. If he had thought that killing someone would have been useful for him, he would not have hesitated. He slaved Stefan, sired Klaus, threated Bonnie, tortured Damon, almost killed Jeremy and Ric...so yeah why it should just be up to Elena?
Looks like only Damon and Matt were brave enough to say out loud that she wasn't the best person to make that decision...
Now your Damon comments deserve more time and I will come back to them soon :)
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3x22 review: part 5
Next up, the two phone calls Damon has. The first to Stefan to tell him Klaus was staked and the second from Elena. I enjoyed the brother phone call and the brief banter Damon threw in. Did not care for Stefan bringing up that Damon would get to say goodbye to Elena and Damon’s expression at that seemed to echo hurt and disbelief. Poor boy!
Real quick aside: Jeremy actually speaks quietly with Stefan after this phone call and informs him that Elena isn’t at home, but being driven out of town. It just sort of dawned on me that Jeremy was essentially saying Matt was taking Elena to Damon and Damon was the one who would have a chance to say goodbye to her. Now this could purely just be in my head mind you, but it just makes me melt to realize that Jeremy believes and trusts Damon more, enough to tell Matt to take Elena to him and that Jeremy doesn’t want Stefan around his sister. I love Damon and Jeremy!!!
Ahem, back to Damon again. The next phone call was with Elena and I think I’ll skip Elena’s half of the conversation for now because I thought her reasoning was incredibly weak and based on fear and denial rather than actual love. Damon’s reaction broke my heart, how vulnerable he was and how hurt. And then at the very end when Alaric shows up again Damon just has this look on his face I can’t quite describe...like a lost, hurting child.
And man, the scene between Damon and Alaric was heartbreaking! Alaric beating Damon up was horrible, equally so how Damon didn’t bother to fight until after the flashback. More on that in a second. What really caught my attention about this scene was how Damon called Alaric by his nickname, Ric, and Alaric got more violent in response and orders Damon not to call him that. It made me realize that his character has been called Alaric ever since his transformation. And then it was followed up by Damon saying they were friends (oh my aching heart!) and Alaric saying that was part of the problem. Alaric actually states that it was the friendship between Damon and Ric that prevented the alter ego from taking over sooner. *wibbles* Oh my bromance!!!! Yes Damon, Ric cared about you too, so much, despite not being a jerk this past season. And now Ric’s gone! *cries*
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YES, YES, YES. I think Damon feels for Rebekah, he sees her as screwed up girl, who doesn't deserve to die..because none of them deserves it. I think Damon acted following his instinct and it told him to protect her.
I just loved it like WOHA!
I enjoyed the brother phone call and the brief banter Damon threw in. Did not care for Stefan bringing up that Damon would get to say goodbye to Elena and Damon’s expression at that seemed to echo hurt and disbelief. Poor boy!
I am broken again...
Now this could purely just be in my head mind you, but it just makes me melt to realize that Jeremy believes and trusts Damon more, enough to tell Matt to take Elena to him and that Jeremy doesn’t want Stefan around his sister. I love Damon and Jeremy!!!
Me too and I am sure both Matt and Jeremy trust Damon more than Stefan, but I don't think the writers wanted to tell us that...I just think Matt was taking Elena out of town, not necessarily where Damon was.
Damon’s reaction broke my heart, how vulnerable he was and how hurt. And then at the very end when Alaric shows up again Damon just has this look on his face I can’t quite describe...like a lost, hurting child.
He was about to give up, to die, as if he hasn't nothing to live up for...but then...he found the strenght and he resurrected. In my mind, that image of Elena when nothing had started yet, was the quintessence of what Damon loves in Elena. Her being pure and naive in opposition to what Katherine is.
Alaric beating Damon up was horrible, equally so how Damon didn’t bother to fight until after the flashback.
*sobs*
...And then it was followed up by Damon saying they were friends (oh my aching heart!) and Alaric saying that was part of the problem. Alaric actually states that it was the friendship between Damon and Ric that prevented the alter ego from taking over sooner. *wibbles* Oh my bromance!!!! Yes Damon, Ric cared about you too, so much, despite not being a jerk this past season. And now Ric’s gone! *cries*
*sobs more*
I can't add anything more...I just want Damon to have a true and alive friend, since both Ric and Rose are gone...
*cries*
3x22 review: part 6
Damon regains his will to fight after remembering that and he actually gets in several good hits on Alaric. And then Alaric faltered, he was dying and oh my goodness the shock, pain, and denial on Damon’s face...*cries* He was denying both their deaths I believe. I cry watching Damon catch Ric, the way he held him, how it was about both Ric and Elena at the same time. Just...guh!
And finally, Damon’s arrival at the hospital how Meredith stops him and tells him indirectly what she had done and Damon’s shock and even horror of realization. Guh! Damon really went through the emotional wringer this episode and I look forward to seeing how he handles everything next season.
I also really love how Damon is such a core part of everyone’s lives and how he’s involved with the lives of the MF’s gang. He has really come to matter to them and I think his absence in Mystic Falls this time made it clear to at least some how much they depend on him. Matt and Jeremy certainly seemed to recognize it, Bonnie was with Damon for a short time and they had an exchange that spoke of equals.
That’s the one thing that bugs me though. If I were to take a bet, I’d wager Damon actually knew what Bonnie did but again that scene between them was very unclear to me. Why was she there???
Other moment of stupidity: why, oh WHY did Elena tell Elijah, after it was confirmed Klaus was ‘dead’ she and Matt were driving back to town??? Rebekah wouldn’t have been able to find her and Matt otherwise.
In conclusion, Damon is awesome. Jeremy and Matt are awesome. Bonnie is coming into her own. Meredith is becoming a fully-fleshed character. Ric is a ghost and therefore still around despite his body dying. Carol and Liz are heartbreaking. Rebekah is lost and angry. Lots of story possibilities there! Looking forward to seeing what happens to them.
(Hey, I made it in under 7 posts! *is astonished* :P Lol!)
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I know D/E people are crazy over this, but I am not sure it is so meaningful for Elena. I think Damon words to her were and I hope, now that she remembers, she will pay attention to them and that memory was important for Damon when he was about to give up and let Ric kill him...but I don't want to read too much into it. I am not sure there is a connection between the fact that Elena told him "if we had met first" during the call and the fact that they actually met first.
Oh my! In this one scene, the chemistry between the two character sprang to life and had more fire than any of the previous S/E scenes including that kiss.
This! I read some people say that Elena and Damon are boring together...eheheheheh seriously? I am not even a real D/E shipper but they two of them are everything but boring together!
And oh it was fun to see cocky Damon back mixed in with honesty and some vulnerability. :))
For a sec he hoped it was Kath.
It was extremely telling for me as a viewer that while Damon at first mistook Elena for Katherine, he immediately recognized the mistake and treated her as a person in her own right.
Perfect description is perfect.
He also saw her and her wants right away--he knew her. And Elena asked him what he wanted. Tragically, we didn’t get Damon’s answer because Elena’s parents arrived. Instead Damon compels Elena to forget him, and to go after what she wants and to fulfill her dreams. Oh Damon!
That scene is so meaningful and very telling of Damon's real nature, that is not only the one we saw at the beginning of S1...awwww my babe!!!
And then Alaric faltered, he was dying and oh my goodness the shock, pain, and denial on Damon’s face...*cries* He was denying both their deaths I believe.
He was indeed. It was Ric's first and then He realized it was Elena and I just wanted to cuddle him forever...
I cry watching Damon catch Ric, the way he held him, how it was about both Ric and Elena at the same time. Just...guh!
I cried too...that one is a scene I won't be able to rewatch for a long time.
Guh! Damon really went through the emotional wringer this episode and I look forward to seeing how he handles everything next season.
I can't wait!
I also really love how Damon is such a core part of everyone’s lives and how he’s involved with the lives of the MF’s gang. He has really come to matter to them and I think his absence in Mystic Falls this time made it clear to at least some how much they depend on him. Matt and Jeremy certainly seemed to recognize it, Bonnie was with Damon for a short time and they had an exchange that spoke of equals.
WORD!!!
If I were to take a bet, I’d wager Damon actually knew what Bonnie did but again that scene between them was very unclear to me. Why was she there???
It wasn't exactly well done. I guess it's just one of those things that the writers do as plot device. I guess that she was there because she needed to make a spell to hide the coffin, just like the spirits did back then.
I love our long convos!!!
Other moment of stupidity: why, oh WHY did Elena tell Elijah, after it was confirmed Klaus was ‘dead’ she and Matt were driving back to town??? Rebekah wouldn’t have been able to find her and Matt otherwise.
In conclusion, Damon is awesome. Jeremy and Matt are awesome. Bonnie is coming into her own. Meredith is becoming a fully-fleshed character. Ric is a ghost and therefore still around despite his body dying. Carol and Liz are heartbreaking. Rebekah is lost and angry. Lots of story possibilities there! Looking forward to seeing what happens to them.
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because right now I have no words.
So, is Elena gonna be a vampire now? I guess they could still try to put in another short cut exit or play it like that...
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Your post has me lost in my emotions, bb! I will be back a bit later with a very involved response.
I still can't believe how much this show gets to me...
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Elena
Anyhow, your idea that she chose Stefan because he is her last tie to her parents and to the simple life she led previously makes so much sense to me. With all she has gone through and the chaos that is her present life, of course it'll be easier and safer to return to what she knows. She knew she had to make a choice and made the only one she is capable of at this time.
ITA that she chose Stefan by default and not for who he is. She'll never feel the fire of true love with him - first love, yes, but not true love. They will be happy for awhile but not long because she won't be able to keep her love for Damon denied forever. Her memories of first meeting him, and his selfless confession will only make it harder for her to stay in her current place where she won't truly examine her feelings for him.
It angers me, also, that Stefan has had absolutely no consequences for his actions, but agree that there's no point in banging my head against the wall.
Elena calling Damon and being brutally honest with him in the face of his potential death now seems that this is the way it should be (although I'd be lying if I said I wasn't totally pissed at her initially). Their relationship has been built on honesty and I'm glad she didn't go back on that at the end. Yes, she's denying what she really, truly feels but she made her choice and she respects Damon enough to not sugar-coat it. Also, Damon did ask specifically about who would get her goodbye. I think he needed to hear her response as much as it killed him emotionally. The honesty and integrity and respect that they share will be a great foundation for them, once they get the chance to be together.
I didn't expect Elena to become a vampire, but now realize why they were showcasing her humanity this season since they intended for it to be gone by the end. There is a part of me that thinks the show might find some 'witchy work-around' that allows her to not complete the transition but stay alive - that's a very long shot, though. I'm not all that impressed at how they made her turn, though. Something about the fact that she was so set against that and having it be a product of circumstance doesn't sit well with me.
I have felt for the last several episodes that the whole thing of Elena making a choice has been pushed too hard and too fast on these characters. By doing that, it made choosing Stefan the only possibility - which was my biggest fear going into the finale. I didn't want Elena to have to make a choice until she was in a place that would allow her to consider both brothers equally. That was certainly not the case, but I can see now that the situation is suitable to allow Elena to do just that.
Nina's performance in the underwater scenes was flawless!! She is such a talented actor. She conveyed everything so blinking well.
There'll be more commenting later, as I have to hop in a shower now ... ;)
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I was internally screaming "NO. NO. JUST NO." as she was talking to Matt. I was downright pissed at her during the phone call to Damon.
My first reaction was that too. I had to calm down and think before writing down my thoughts.
She knew she had to make a choice and made the only one she is capable of at this time.
The whole key is "At this time". This means now, not always and forever.
She'll never feel the fire of true love with him - first love, yes, but not true love.
Exactly and sooner or later she would have felt like she felt with Matt, but now she is different and that might happen sooner than later.
It angers me, also, that Stefan has had absolutely no consequences for his actions, but agree that there's no point in banging my head against the wall.
Some characters always get a free pass. The more they are considered the creator favorite, the less they are well written and developed. At least it's like this both in SPN and TVD.
Yes, she's denying what she really, truly feels but she made her choice and she respects Damon enough to not sugar-coat it. Also, Damon did ask specifically about who would get her goodbye. I think he needed to hear her response as much as it killed him emotionally. The honesty and integrity and respect that they share will be a great foundation for them, once they get the chance to be together.
So much this! And is some way it's true that she set him free. Damon is strong enough to deal with the aftermath of being rejected. Would Stefan be?
they intended for it to be gone by the end.
I don't think it's gone, like it's not gone for Stefan/Damon/Caroilne...she will have to deal with her new nature, but her humanity is still there.
I have felt for the last several episodes that the whole thing of Elena making a choice has been pushed too hard and too fast on these characters.
I agree. She has started to realize that she has feelings for Damon only recently and of course there was no balance between Damon and Stefan in her eyes. She feels something for Damon, but the fact that she can't say what this feeling is, it's totally believable for me. That's why it had to be Stefan, as much as my hurt bleeds for Damon.
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This is me, through and through. I have never been as emotionally invested in any character as I am in Damon Salvatore. Your description of him is bang on. I am ridiculously protective of him and feel his pain, be it emotional or physical, as if it's my own. His goodbyes to both Stefan and Elena and Ric damn near ended me, as did the sight of Alaric beating him to a pulp. I can't even tell you my reaction to his expression when Ric died because the words are still escaping me.
Thank you for beautifully spelling out all that took place in that powerful scene. I absolutely adore that Damon found the courage and will to fight back and not give up completely AND that his first memory of Elena helped him do that. Damon has such superior strength of character and resilience to the constant battering that he takes. That is a small part of why I love him so. He does love her so much it hurts and so it makes sense that he'd be tempted to just give up after being rejected by her yet again. So he fights Ric off only to have his worst nightmare take place immediately thereafter.
His expression when he gets back to MF showed his desperation to see her, but then Meredith tells him she 'helped' Elena and he's just crushed because he knows she never wanted to turn. GAH!
There was so much gut-wrenching Damon stuff in this episode. I'm still processing it all.
I'm so glad I have you to share all of my reactions and thoughts with Val :)
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I know. This is me exactly.
Damon has such superior strength of character and resilience to the constant battering that he takes.
YES YES YES!
His expression when he gets back to MF showed his desperation to see her, but then Meredith tells him she 'helped' Elena and he's just crushed because he knows she never wanted to turn. GAH!
I don't even know whether Damon felt relieved because she was alive or desperate because she will live only if she turns.
I'm so glad I have you to share all of my reactions and thoughts with Val :)
Whenever you feel like :)
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But, I basically agree with everything you said.
Alaric dying was terrible, and Damon holding him and realizing it meant Elena had died was the worst part for me in the episode. That part made me cry the most. I just really hope, if what Julie said about Meredith being Damon's new drinking buddy is true, that, that is ALL she is. Just friends with him. He really needs friends. And no more hookups/pseudo dating. If he can't be with Elena right now, I'd like him just to be happy with helping her transition and being there for her.
And maybe he can become better friends with Bonnie (with what we saw in the last 2 episodes, they seemed to be less-antagonistic with each other) and maybe Caroline could forgive him and they could be friends too. And Jeremy, seriously, remember S1 Jeremy and Damon, playing video games and just being seemingly friendly with each other? That would be nice too.
The second worst part for me was watching Alaric stake Klaus and knowing it was possibly the end of all of our dear vampires lives. And Rebekah and Elijah crying and hugging, that tore me apart.
I was truly happy that Bonnie did what she did, in having Klaus posses Tyler. And I think Tyler knew about it and was complicit about it, so he could save Caroline. So I don't think it was something she did against Tyler's will or anything.
Though Caroline is bound to be upset by this, I know Bonnie will put everything to rights after a few episodes in S4. Since Joseph Morgan is already confirmed as coming back.
I liked Matt and Jeremy being all bromancy again together. But I didn't like their plan to drug her and take her away. I mean, I know they thought they were doing the right thing. But ultimately, this caused Elena to die and become something she didn't want to be. Nevertheless, I am intrigued by Vamp!Elena, though I didn't want it to happen this soon.
Caroline and Tyler seem to be the most functional couple on the show at this point, so I'm just glad they are happy together. And kinda can't wait for Caroline to find out that Tyler is really Klaus lol
Bonnie has come into her own it seems, and I'm very happy about that. It was her CHOICE to transfer or whatever Klaus over to Tyler to save her friends and her mother. It wasn't something she had to do. I will be very happy if her being strong and not judgy towards ALL vampires could continue into S4.
Stefan..ugh..I don't really have anything to say about him. Unfortunately, he is my least favorite character. And the only time I like him is when he is with his brother. I can't get over how white-washed his character is and how he hasn't been called out for his actions. It's a complete disservice to his narrative and to his character. I just hope they rectify this soon enough. I don't like, not liking him.
And Damon, I just wish they would let him be happy for once. Elena's choice is all about what you said. About Stefan being the "safe" option and all that. So I guess I'm more okay with it. I just hope Vamp!Elena is different. And sees him for how great he really is. He's been there for her and her friends time and again. And it's really time she step out of her denial bubble, and admit that if not love, she does have strong feelings for him. *Fingers crossed* for this to finally happen in S4.
I'm glad Elena's choice about becoming a vampire was essentially taken away. Because at least, it wasn't really anyone's fault. She can't blame anyone for it, least of all Stefan or Damon.
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I know, it was painful and Damon didn't deserve to suffer like that. Actually RIC didn't deserve to die at all....*sobbing*
Just friends with him. He really needs friends. And no more hookups/pseudo dating. If he can't be with Elena right now, I'd like him just to be happy with helping her transition and being there for her.
I am torn about this. I want Meredith to be a real frien, one person who cares for Damon just cause it's Damon and not because he is the eternal stud if you know what I mean, but about Damon being there for Elena...I don't know, I want their relationship to evolve and not Damon just being there accepting all the crap because his love is selfless.
And Jeremy, seriously, remember S1 Jeremy and Damon, playing video games and just being seemingly friendly with each other? That would be nice too.
I think Jeremy likes Damon, especially because he knows he would do everyting for Elena. I also think Jeremy is one of those who have already seen that Damon has changed and trusts him.
And Rebekah and Elijah crying and hugging, that tore me apart.
THIS!
So I don't think it was something she did against Tyler's will or anything.
This is interesting, very great thought.
I mean, I know they thought they were doing the right thing. But ultimately, this caused Elena to die and become something she didn't want to be.
It was also Stefan decision to save Matt and not her, it was Meredith idea to give her vamp!blood so none and everyone but Damon, can be blamed for this but all of them acted out of love and love make people do stupid things.
Bonnie has come into her own it seems, and I'm very happy about that.
Me too, I hope she understands that now she can't blame anynone else for her decision though.
And the only time I like him is when he is with his brother.
Damon brings out the best from him.
I can't get over how white-washed his character is and how he hasn't been called out for his actions. It's a complete disservice to his narrative and to his character.
I agree. He should be held accountable for his actions and he should somehow be seen for who he really is.
And Damon, I just wish they would let him be happy for once.
Me too, but as Nancy Forner said, Damon is the deepest character of the show because he is the most tortured. I am all for it.
I just hope Vamp!Elena is different. And sees him for how great he really is. He's been there for her and her friends time and again. And it's really time she step out of her denial bubble, and admit that if not love, she does have strong feelings for him.
Amen to this!