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x5vale ([personal profile] x5vale) wrote2012-04-27 01:12 pm
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TVD DO NOT GO GENTLE: where I'd like to slap Bonnie and cuddle my favorite bromance forever!

Yesterday has been Gaia's bday and I spent the whole day in med due to a horrible headache. I have never had something like that in all my life.
I feel better though and maybe tomorrow we could celebrate my bday by the sea as we planned :)

Onto TVD...the review will be shorter this time.


-"Damon I"....uncomfortable position Stefan, isn't it? But I see the brotherly love :)

-Damon and Meredith, I like them together.

-I hate Esher. I do with all my heart. She is crazy, she is obsessed. She is arrogant, like all the witches.

-I love Matt. He is awesome.

-Every time I want to feel something for Bonnie, she said something that makes me dislike her.Her "holier than though" attitude is annoying.

-Dear Klaus, the Salvatores bond is unbreakable and if yours with your siblings is not, it's just because of you. It's all your fault.

-If Ric is going to die in the finale, wouldn't it be a surprise, would it be?

-Ric saying that Damon would have taken care of thw whole thing broke my heart. It's Damon, always.

-OMG the scene with all of them standing and then Ric...*cries*

-Oh Klaus...you are so scrwed up...*cuddles you*

-Jeremy and Matt FTW!

-OMG Damon...I can't even...seriously how come that this guy has to suffer and has to be taken away everything he loves? Wyt do the wtiters enjoy to torture him and not give him some kind of comfort?

-Bonnie, you stupid witch...


My quick take on the three biggest ships (even though I couldn't care less about them in this episode):

Caroline/Klaus.
They have chemistry, but as Klaus said, she is not ready...not even close to be ready.

Stefan/Elena.
Sorry, I haven't any feeling from the two of them. I just loved Stefan, Elena a lot whole less. But she was looking for comfort and who better than Stefan could give her? I saw people mad at thiss scene because they felt like Delena has no hopes. I disagree, because I didn't see Elena as in love with Stefan. i just saw how easier it was for her to embrace her old feelings. She feels safe with Stefan. She can't with Damon. Not yet.

Damon/Elena
It baffles me how they can ignore something like what happened in 3.19 and even not letting them close about the whole Ric situation.
Actually I am happy it was about Damon and Ric and that Damon had his moment with his friend. Still I think that story wise, a little bt more interaction would have been fair.

Two things I disliked:
-Caroline...she isn't the character I used to love so much anymore. I can't even explain why, it's just a feeling.
-Would have been nice to hear Ric apologizing to Damon too.

Oh and you know if Elena does not choose Damon(which is something I truly believe), I won't even care much because Damon deserves better than her. He just has to realize it.



[identity profile] sarahk-1963.livejournal.com 2012-04-27 11:39 am (UTC)(link)
I'm glad that you are feeling better...which will come in handy as you celebrate your Birthday very soon.

My birthday gift to you is a wish for the next year free of sickness for you.

I hope that you do enjoy your day by the sea.

much love, sarahk

[identity profile] x5vale.livejournal.com 2012-04-28 10:03 am (UTC)(link)
Thank you so much honey.

Hope you are doing ok.

[identity profile] cosetteferaud.livejournal.com 2012-04-27 12:57 pm (UTC)(link)
I am sorry to hear that you have not been feeling well. Hoping here that you recover completely so you can celebrate your birthday properly! A day by the sea sounds wonderful! :)

[identity profile] x5vale.livejournal.com 2012-04-28 10:04 am (UTC)(link)
I guess we will postpone it because i don't feel like going out today.

Thanks for the wishes :)

[identity profile] metallidean-grl.livejournal.com 2012-04-27 02:16 pm (UTC)(link)
Sorry to hear you are not feeling well. HOpe it passes soon! Get well.

I also HATE Esther, the mom. She totally destroys the show. Don't care for her characterization, her arrogance, her "know-it-all" attitude. Last night she really truly bugged the heck out of me.

Loved the moments between Damon and Ric. That was very sweet, two friends saying goodbye. Not sure how I feel yet about Ric coming back all bad. I would have preferred him staying dead. And agree, Bonnie needs to get off her high horse.

I want Damon and Elena, but did see that Elena went to Stefan for the comfort. Stefan is her comfort blanket and she needed that, but yea, that kiss between her and Damon in the previous episode, how can you ignore that. She obviously has feelings and a huge attraction for Damon. How long does she think she can quash that before it gets the better of her.

[identity profile] x5vale.livejournal.com 2012-04-28 10:07 am (UTC)(link)
Thank you honey.

Esther is seriously messed up and arrogant. She plays God and she thinks she is right. She must die.

As for Ric, I am sorry he is gone, but I am even more sorry because this show took away from Damon the only person (along with Rose) who was able to see beyond the surface and love Damon for who he was. That's not fair.

I don't know about Elena..I don't even think she is the best for Damon, but right now I don't even care...I just want some happiness for him, as I want it for Dean.
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[identity profile] santacarlagypsy.livejournal.com 2012-04-27 03:59 pm (UTC)(link)
I hope you're feeling much better, sweetie. :)



And I know that I'm a day early, but I just want to go ahead and wish you a...

HAPPY BIRTHDAY!! ♥ ♥ ♥

[identity profile] x5vale.livejournal.com 2012-04-28 10:07 am (UTC)(link)
*hugs you*

Thank you Laura!

[identity profile] brightstarmara.livejournal.com 2012-04-27 05:05 pm (UTC)(link)
Sorry you're feeling icky :(

I hope you feel better for your b-day!

[identity profile] x5vale.livejournal.com 2012-04-28 10:08 am (UTC)(link)
A little better but not totally better. Thank you btw.

OMg did I miss you bday? HAPPY BELATED BIRTHDAY!!!

[identity profile] a-phoenixdragon.livejournal.com 2012-04-27 05:38 pm (UTC)(link)
Awww, bb...hopefully your birthday will be better!

*SNUGGLES*

[identity profile] x5vale.livejournal.com 2012-04-28 10:08 am (UTC)(link)
*hugs you*

Part 1

[identity profile] roselani24.livejournal.com 2012-04-27 06:17 pm (UTC)(link)
Ah, feel better hon! *hugs* And happy birthday early!!! :D

Some TVD thoughts...ala from the email as requested. :)

Honestly, throughout this episode I kept wanting to get back to Damon and Alaric and Jeremy and Matt and, surprisingly, Meredith. I didn't care a lick about the others and just wanted them to go away. Actually I didn't mind Bonnie too much, but her 'romance' with Jamie is just awkward as was the stupidity of her going home and claiming her friends are her life etc. Otherwise I was pleased to see some character movement on her part, however small (ETA she needs to knock off the attitude with Damon tho because there really was no other choice. Appreciated the honesty there tho compared to her scenes with Stefan).

Caroline and Elena have both fallen apart in terms of character and I really couldn't stand them in this episode. I was gritting my teeth through Caroline's comments throughout this episode. I liked her character and how's she evolved until the second half of this season. Now I just want her to shut up. Plus side is it is a sign of Caroline's faults and moves her away from being a Mary Sue...but it depends on what the writers do with her character and whether or not her faults are ever addressed properly.

Some positives? JEREMY! DAMON! MATT!

Jeremy first. I LOVE having him back in town and how his presence changes the dynamics of things. I especially enjoyed his reaction to Damon informing them that Ric's alter ego was at the wheel and no longer controllable leading him to suggest killing him quickly and cleanly.

Personally, I think Jeremy's reaction was the most believable of the bunch and most understandable. He just as much as Elena has been reeling from the losses of his family and loved ones (ie Anna) and it makes sense that, given he always seemed closer to Ric then Elena, he would deny this course of action first. Speaking of Anna, I'm guessing we have her to thank for keeping Jeremy protected when he was dead with the ring on. Her mention of the powerful witch and how hard she worked to protect Jeremy from Vicki who listened to the witch makes me miss her more. Granted, that's just my speculation. Jeremy's reaction on the flipside could also have something to do with Esther's influence as she had on Ric and not wanting him dead subconsciously so he could complete his task. And Damon was indeed right and, this may be just me, but his argument with Damon had far more fire than anything he said to Elena in this episode. He just...came to life as it were and I really wish they had more interaction because there was a lot going on between them that got pushed aside for Caroline/Tyler, Stefan/Elena, even Bonnie/Jamie and I was NOT interested in any of those pairings at all.

Jeremy going to the Grill and getting a drink with Matt felt very in-character for me too, especially with the immense distance between him and Elena. Elena and him have a lot of issues that need to be addressed and the main one is the lies Elena tells her brother. I understand its to protect him but she has overstepped the line a few times now because she leaves Jeremy vulnerable like Jenna was left vulnerable by not knowing all the facts. Everyone has done this in Mystic Falls I know, but I'm just looking at the sibling bond between Elena and Jeremy here and saying its a big issue with them. Honestly, I think Jeremy has less issues with Damon because Damon may be a dick but he's always given it straight to Jeremy and owned his actions. Again, all just my opinion. Anyway, it made sense to me that Jeremy would go with Matt because Damon wasn't available since he was staying with Ric (note how Jeremy only said Damon was here when he came into the tomb where Ric and Elena were) and Matt knows what it means to have to be the 'man of the house'. Like with Elena earlier in the season, Matt is just very accepting and supportive and Elena can't provide that for Jeremy right now cause she's just as wrecked.


tbc...



Re: Part 1

[identity profile] x5vale.livejournal.com 2012-04-28 12:51 pm (UTC)(link)
Thank you for all the bday wishes.

Honestly, throughout this episode I kept wanting to get back to Damon and Alaric and Jeremy and Matt and, surprisingly, Meredith.
same here and I want more intercation between Damon and Damon.

Actually I didn't mind Bonnie too much
Her attitude with Damon and Stefan annoyed me to no end because they didn't have any other choice...oh yes they could have let Elena die. Plus she was the one to help Klaus because she felt she didn't have a choice...so hypocrite. I get she is mad at them and she has the right to, but she is not that innocent as she likes to think about herself.

Appreciated the honesty there tho compared to her scenes with Stefan
Amen.

I liked her character and how's she evolved until the second half of this season. Now I just want her to shut up.
Exactly my point!

Some positives? JEREMY! DAMON! MATT!
YES YES YES!

I especially enjoyed his reaction to Damon informing them that Ric's alter ego was at the wheel and no longer controllable leading him to suggest killing him quickly and cleanly.
Looks like Jeremy can't accept yet that the events are so much bigger than them adn that they can't control them, but just defending themselves....awwww Jer...

Personally, I think Jeremy's reaction was the most believable of the bunch and most understandable.
ITA!

Speaking of Anna, I'm guessing we have her to thank for keeping Jeremy protected when he was dead with the ring on.
That's a great point!

And Damon was indeed right and, this may be just me, but his argument with Damon had far more fire than anything he said to Elena in this episode. He just...came to life as it were and I really wish they had more interaction
I want Team!Badass forever and nwo it's gone...gone-...OMG why?

Jeremy going to the Grill and getting a drink with Matt felt very in-character for me too, especially with the immense distance between him and Elena. Elena and him have a lot of issues that need to be addressed and the main one is the lies Elena tells her brother.
I agree. She keeps treating him like a puppy who needs to be protected. He needs, but he needs to know. He needs to be considered as a part of the team.

Honestly, I think Jeremy has less issues with Damon because Damon may be a dick but he's always given it straight to Jeremy and owned his actions.
I agree, also because Damon is honestand doesn't deny who he is and what he does. He can even apologize if he realizes that he's wrong. So yes, I kinda see them as little brother/big brother.

(note how Jeremy only said Damon was here when he came into the tomb where Ric and Elena were)
I loved that he mentioned Damon only. He acknowledged that the only one who counted in that moment for him and for Ric was Damon.

and Matt knows what it means to have to be the 'man of the house'.
So much love for Matt.




Part 2

[identity profile] roselani24.livejournal.com 2012-04-27 06:19 pm (UTC)(link)
Speaking of Matt, I love how he actually followed Jeremy's lead and willingly backed him up when they went to rescue Elena from Esther. And his grounding presence throughout this episode was great I think. So much love for Matt and his continued awesomeness. His character growth has been great to see and I can only hope he survives this season, especially with Alaric now an Original Vampire brainwashed witch minion. =/

And Damon, oh Damon. While Ric has been a dick to him, I still loved their last scene together and the implications of more time spent together then we got to see and how well they actually know each other. Damon clearly knows Ric well because he was right about Ric preferring to die than continuing to kill and be ruled by his dark side. *sniffs* I'll be watching that scene over and over again, I know. Also, I'm glad Damon knew Elena asked Stefan to be her escort to the dance and didn't find out some other way, as awful as it was how he learned it. He is doing exactly what he told Elena he would do: he's not lashing out and its all on Elena to make a choice. I also rather enjoyed how Meredith, despite not caring for her too much as she hasn't been developed enough yet, spoke to Damon and how she listened and urged him to go join Ric. Yes, it SHOULD have been Elena but I do appreciate Meredith being there and the beginnings of a bond between them especially since Elena has pissed me off so much.

It also seems Damon is cementing his position as the resident Cassandra nobody listens to then blames after everything goes kaput like Dean. My poor guys!

Question: when did Elena turn into such a victim and become so stupid? In the first half of S3 she was really growing, getting tougher and proving to be quite smart. The last glimpse of that girl was when she escaped the ropes and tricked a compelled Jamie in 3.12. Since then its like she's just been foolish, impulsive, and often cruel/manipulative (not intentionally some of the time) to those around her, especially Damon. Now if its genuine character growth and she owns up to her mistakes and apologizes for them to the people she has hurt to their faces and makes attempts at changing etc its fine, but if not...*shakes head*

Just some thoughts and feelings on my part. Lovely review, as always, and some interesting thoughts on Stefan and Stefan/Elena. Hmm, I'll take those under consideration.

Re: Part 2

[identity profile] x5vale.livejournal.com 2012-04-28 12:59 pm (UTC)(link)
And his grounding presence throughout this episode was great I think.
I agree. It's his being so supportive of his friends even though he could just leave and send them all to hell, just so he can have a fresh start and a happy life...but no, he stays and he's there for everyone and mostly he is not judgey at all.

And Damon, oh Damon. While Ric has been a dick to him, I still loved their last scene together and the implications of more time spent together then we got to see and how well they actually know each other.
*cries hard*
Seriuosly I can't even talk about this....I so much agree with you btw.

I'll be watching that scene over and over again, I know.
Me too.
*clings*

Also, I'm glad Damon knew Elena asked Stefan to be her escort to the dance and didn't find out some other way, as awful as it was how he learned it. He is doing exactly what he told Elena he would do: he's not lashing out and its all on Elena to make a choice.
I am so proud of our babe...he deserves so much more than being stuck in a love triangle. I wish he could realize it.

I also rather enjoyed how Meredith, despite not caring for her too much as she hasn't been developed enough yet, spoke to Damon and how she listened and urged him to go join Ric.
You know I actually felt something for her and it was such a good felling. I agree, it should have been Elena..but Elena was not ready to gice comfort to anyone. Not even to herself. She looked as a ascred, lost, lonely child.

It also seems Damon is cementing his position as the resident Cassandra nobody listens to then blames after everything goes kaput like Dean. My poor guys!
That's why we love them so much. People should just use their brains and listen to Damon and Dean when they speak.

Question: when did Elena turn into such a victim and become so stupid?
I think it's the whole triangle that is killing her.

Since then its like she's just been foolish, impulsive, and often cruel/manipulative (not intentionally some of the time) to those around her, especially Damon.
I think it's because she is scared..like really really scared.
Not expecting much from her btw...I still think Damon is the best written character of the whole show.

[identity profile] deanvica23.livejournal.com 2012-04-27 07:36 pm (UTC)(link)
sweetie joyeux anniversaire at gaia.Sorry for your headeache. I suffer lot of headaches since years and sometimes very strong.I make your post birthday this evening or tomorrow even if you leave? Love.

[identity profile] x5vale.livejournal.com 2012-04-29 09:07 pm (UTC)(link)
The headache are nasty!

*hugs*

[identity profile] ann-tara.livejournal.com 2012-04-27 08:43 pm (UTC)(link)
I'm so sorry you're not feeling well. I hope you're better by tomorrow for your birthday haps. Happy Birthday, sweetie.

So, the episode ... gotta admit I was disappointed there wasn't more - or ANY - transition between what happened between Damon and Elena last week, and her going all gaga over taking Stefan to the dance. Oh, and STFU about Elena's choice, Caroline. Boy she really pissed me off last night. It finally dawned on me that Klaus is too good for her.

But this episode simply felt like Stefan's turn - like last week was Damon's, this week was Stefans's, with no overlapping of Elena's feelings for both. Not the writers' best maneuver. But it did confirm my feeling that Elena will choose Stefan at the end of the season. No real surprises here.

I'm also not happy that Ric was turned into the new Big Bad - and according to the interviews with Julie Plec, that's what happened. Ric died, and now we're dealing with Original!Ric. Which, of course, means he has to be put down - or sent away somehow. No more Alaric the history teacher and Damon's best friend. SAD! I liked that he and Damon got a chance to have a last moment together, though. :(

And, you know what, Bonnie, given that you and your little witchy family are now directly responsible for turning Ric into a monster, you can climb off that high horse of arrogance and pissyness - and take the stick out of your ass at the same time. You're just as culpable for turning good people bad as everyone else you lord it over.

Yeah, I wasn't very happy with Bonnie either, as you can tell.

RIP Ric. RIP Damon/Ric. *sniff*

[identity profile] x5vale.livejournal.com 2012-04-29 09:50 pm (UTC)(link)
Thank you honey!

This Caroline is way far from the character that use to be my favorite female character. She is becoming flat and annoying.

re Elena: I think the way she is exploring her feelings is wrong. Of course she feels safe with Stefan. I just don't get why the writers have to force on us that two words can erase what Stefan has done. He was on a mass murder, he hurt Elena to get his revenge, they built up a season saying that Stefan only cares about Damon and then in just one episode they ruined his characterization for me.
If Elena chooses Stefan, she will just follow the easy way, she will refuse to explore her feelings for Damon, she will run away from them because Damon doesn't mean peace and safety. Not at the point where Elena is now, because you know...Damon would never leave her out of his feelings of revenge for Klaus...let's wait and see.

Not happy abput Ric neither. I loved Ric and his bromance with Damon. They took away from him his only friend...screw you TVD!

AGREED ON BONNIE. She dared to tell Damon that there is always a choice while she willingly helped Esther first and Klaus then...just because she thought she didn't have any choice. Talk about hipocricy....

[identity profile] kros-21.livejournal.com 2012-04-27 10:54 pm (UTC)(link)
omg, how many times is their mother gonna try to kill them and kida fail!?!??!
I don't know how to feel about Alaric transformation.... I honestly never doted on him. Who knows, maybe I'm gonna find him more interesting now in the role of the crazy vampire vampire-slayer? XD

Bonnie is unbearable, really. I don't feel any kind of pity for her. She is just always full of shit, and that even before her mother got turned.

And yeah Elena... always looking for Stefan when you need some cuddles ah? tse!


Oh and you know if Elena does not choose Damon(which is something I truly believe), I won't even care much because Damon deserves better than her. He just has to realize it.

SEE, now we are definitely on the same page? Haven't I been telling this for ages?! XD



Also, I hope you feel better today.
Also also..... I start to wish you happy birthday for tomorrow. I'll be back later on to wish you again! ;)

[identity profile] x5vale.livejournal.com 2012-04-29 09:54 pm (UTC)(link)
Since I love Alaric, well being the Original Vampire Hunter who will die when he's done...me no likes.

Agreed on Bonnie.

Elena is choosing the easier way I guess. Her loss. Damon pack honey and leave them to save their asses, then when they are all about to die..show up and save them all, then just leave again and enjoy life elsewhere!

About Elena choosing Damon. I actually think that the bros would be better off without her. I am not a hardcore shipper. I just want Damon happy and since he is stubborn and he loves her, I want him to have some happiness and not constantly been hurt.

That being said I think Damon should leave :)

[identity profile] jeymien.livejournal.com 2012-04-28 03:04 am (UTC)(link)
I don't know if Bonnie did that of her free will. I'm going to go with Esther controlling her, she seemed to be very out of it.. We'll see next episode I guess.

BUT I AM SO RAGING. I spent 20 minutes of that episode crying cause I basically was mourning Alaric (I know, but it's hormonally that time of the month and seriously I cry at everything..) then that ending I was so mad at them doing that... the kleenex got thrown at the tv screen. Last time I think I got this upset was Tara dying and Willow becoming Darth Willow on BtVS I think. Which means, yay, good tv.. but ARGH!!!! I don't want him to be the big bad!

[identity profile] x5vale.livejournal.com 2012-04-29 09:57 pm (UTC)(link)
I was not blaming Bonnie because she completed Esther spell. I think it wasn't on free will.

But she can't tell Damon that there is always a choice in a situation where the only choice was to let Elena die and when she helped Esther willingly the first time and then Klaus because she felt like she didn't have choice when she saw Kol going after Jeremy.

This is hipocrycy imo.

I so know what you mean...I think SPN did that to me, but I was upset too when Tara died. That was heartbreaking.

[identity profile] thewickedquill.livejournal.com 2012-04-28 11:21 pm (UTC)(link)
Happy (belated) Birthday to Gaia!

Hope you're feeling better, hon :) That headache sounds awful and it's no way to celebrate special days!

All my love and best wishes to you all :)

[identity profile] x5vale.livejournal.com 2012-04-29 09:58 pm (UTC)(link)
I will have a scan but it's a lot whole better.

Thank you so much Shay.

How are you hon?

[identity profile] thewickedquill.livejournal.com 2012-04-29 10:42 pm (UTC)(link)
I'm glad to hear that. *hugs you tight*
I've been good. Tired (as a result of being) busy, happy. Can't really complain :)
Wishing you Damon hugs :) MWAH!

[identity profile] vella-amor-dm.livejournal.com 2012-05-03 06:12 am (UTC)(link)
aw hun, don't blame Bonnie - she was possessed by Esther! it's not really her fault! :(

you know if Elena does not choose Damon(which is something I truly believe), I won't even care much because Damon deserves better than her. He just has to realize it.
totally agree

overall i thought it was a good episode but the Damon-Elena-Stefan triangle is annoying me. i was very sad that Ric died - the writers slowly ruined his character and i am sad about that, but now they've just annihilated him by turning him in a new Mikael ;____; devastated about that. i mean seriously, can we just cut him some slack? hasn't he suffered enough already!?!?

[identity profile] x5vale.livejournal.com 2012-05-03 08:31 am (UTC)(link)
I don't blame Bonnie for what she did to Ric. I blame her for her attitude towards Damon and Stefan.

She did help Klaus before because she felt like she did not have a choice (Kol was around Jeremy), and then she blamed Damon and Stefan but theyd didn't have a choice neither.

Agreed on Ric.