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x5vale ([personal profile] x5vale) wrote2012-06-19 09:56 am
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SPN:How much do I miss them?

Hi flist,

how are you doing? I am good. Busy, melting because it's too hot, watching European Football Championship and enjoying them...can't wait to be on holiday though.

Anyway I was scrolling my dash on Tumblr and I saw these:










credit goes to marycannibal

I miss them so much...they were so perfect together. My shipper heart is still faithful to the magnificent idea that Dean and Jo were. I won't ever forgive SPN for having killed her off. Never. Jo was a character who deserved to be explored more.

*sighs*

[identity profile] sarahk-1963.livejournal.com 2012-06-19 08:26 am (UTC)(link)
Yes, I agree and I had the same type of feelings for Cordelia when they killed her off from the series Angel.

I'd love for them to explore the Jo/Dean relationship (may be a hidden tyrst, that's revealed when they finally do that flashback episode) I know that Jensen didn't like the Ben/Lisa story arc for Dean, but I've always wondered what he thought about the Jo/Dean story arc?

[identity profile] x5vale.livejournal.com 2012-06-20 07:05 am (UTC)(link)
I still think that Jo would have represented hope and fresh air for Dean.

They totally screwed their chances....

[identity profile] x5vale.livejournal.com 2012-06-20 07:05 am (UTC)(link)
*le sigh*
ext_13391: (SPN: Jo Harvelle)

[identity profile] smilla02.livejournal.com 2012-06-19 09:52 am (UTC)(link)
JO! *sobs*

[identity profile] x5vale.livejournal.com 2012-06-20 07:05 am (UTC)(link)
*still sobbing too*

[identity profile] oanaspn.livejournal.com 2012-06-19 11:39 am (UTC)(link)
Here it's scorching hot:). Miss them too...They would of been so lovely together. And i gotta share this awesome video with the two of them, though. One of the most spectacular i have even seen for this ship:). After all this time, the fact that i can't remember when or where Dean said that that heartbreaking "I love you" @ 0:52 it,s still wracking my brain. Unfortunately, i might add, still didn't fond out till this very day:))

Edited 2012-06-19 11:48 (UTC)

[identity profile] x5vale.livejournal.com 2012-06-20 07:08 am (UTC)(link)
Oh my....this video is awesome.

Dean has never said "I love you" to Jo...I am not even sure Dean has ever said it that way to anyone, but I should think about it a little better :)

OMG Jo...

[identity profile] oanaspn.livejournal.com 2012-06-20 04:38 pm (UTC)(link)
So glad to hear you liked it, it's one of my fav with the two of them:. I know he didn't say it to Jo but i was wondering (still do) when Jensen, in all of his career said these lovely words. For a bit i was thinking that he said it in Smallville to Lana, but nah...

[identity profile] faninohio.livejournal.com 2012-06-19 12:39 pm (UTC)(link)
I knew it was bound to happen...we differ in our thoughts on this. :)

I never saw any chemistry between them at all. It probably has everything to do with my thoughts on Alona as an actress. I don't like her in anything she does. She seems to play the same type of character all the time. It's a shame, because she seems to be so nice and was really sweet in person.

[identity profile] x5vale.livejournal.com 2012-06-20 07:11 am (UTC)(link)
I met her at my very first con and she was sweet and nice.
I think I was so fond of Dean/Jo because of what she could have been for him in that moment and I totally dilsiked that Kripke changed his mind also because some fans started to scream out loud (remember those times when wincesters always kept saying that Dean's one true love was only Sam?)...but t's ok, it's probably the first time we disagree on something Dean related )

[identity profile] gidget-84.livejournal.com 2012-06-19 12:39 pm (UTC)(link)
Val! Tore my heart out this morning :( I miss her so much and the potential her and Dean had..
The only thing I can say is whenever Dean goes to heaven, which I mean, he has to at some point right? Is that hopefully they will finally get to be together

[identity profile] x5vale.livejournal.com 2012-06-20 07:12 am (UTC)(link)
Awwww sorry hon...but I couldn't resist. I really feel like they have missed a great chance and why kill her btw?

Dean and Jo in Heaven. That would be great.

*hugs*

[identity profile] gidget-84.livejournal.com 2012-06-19 12:41 pm (UTC)(link)
Oh! I forgot to ask, are you going to watch The Cult when it comes on midseason? I figure I have to for Matt Davis and Alona, who I already ship lol their characters anyway not really them lol

[identity profile] x5vale.livejournal.com 2012-06-20 07:12 am (UTC)(link)
I think I'll give it a try...tell me when it starts so I can dl it.

[identity profile] x5vale.livejournal.com 2012-06-20 07:12 am (UTC)(link)
*hugs back*

[identity profile] kros-21.livejournal.com 2012-06-19 02:59 pm (UTC)(link)
I can't wait to be in that hot weather once again!!! :)

watching a lot of football too! At least we made it through the first round. ;D

[identity profile] x5vale.livejournal.com 2012-06-20 07:13 am (UTC)(link)
Are you kidding me? Please, let's switch places like NOW!

Now Italy-England. This is going to be interesting for a lot of reasons.

[identity profile] kros-21.livejournal.com 2012-06-20 06:41 pm (UTC)(link)
when you live in a country where the maximum temperature is 22°C two days per year, believe me, you dream about that kind of heat. Oh well, I'm going back home in a couple of weeks anyway. ;)

oh yeah, can you imagine how is gonna be here with half of my friends italian and the other half english? XD

[identity profile] x5vale.livejournal.com 2012-06-21 09:29 am (UTC)(link)
Yep I can :)

[identity profile] galain-7.livejournal.com 2012-06-19 03:36 pm (UTC)(link)
I don't ship them, but I loved their relationship and I loved Jo as a character.

You're right, she deserved to be developped and killing her was something I am still angry for.

[identity profile] x5vale.livejournal.com 2012-06-20 07:14 am (UTC)(link)
I loved Jo mostly and I didn't want them to get together or anything, I just wanted them to have the chance to develop their relationship for real.

[identity profile] galain-7.livejournal.com 2012-06-20 08:27 am (UTC)(link)
This, exactly this. Completely agree with you. It would have been great to watch, and with a lot of potential. Who knows, I might have ended up shipping them, with the right development.

[identity profile] olga-keepout.livejournal.com 2012-06-19 06:54 pm (UTC)(link)
I was so heartbroken when Jo was killed off! I also really liked the idea of Dean/Jo... This brought back all the feels.

[identity profile] x5vale.livejournal.com 2012-06-20 07:14 am (UTC)(link)
Exactly. I saw this on TUMBLR and had all my feels back.

*still mourns Jo*

[identity profile] leelust.livejournal.com 2012-06-19 06:59 pm (UTC)(link)
Oh, you reminded me of my dreams. Long time ago i wanted them to be together. Then i wanted him to be with Lisa but even then i liked Jo as Dean's friend.
Now when Lisa is no more *sigh* and they returned so many characters from being dead i wish they'd bring Jo back too. Even as a ghost she was kind to Dean and still was his friend. Such a loss *sobs*

[identity profile] x5vale.livejournal.com 2012-06-20 07:16 am (UTC)(link)
Basically I want Dean to be happy, but at the time he met Jo, she was perfect for him imo. Because she was hopeful, strong, determined. She was fresh air and tender loving care.

I am still upset by her death.

[identity profile] lisichechka.livejournal.com 2012-06-20 10:31 pm (UTC)(link)
When he first met her she wasn't imo. She evolved and became a woman you described. Then she was good for him but they killed her off :/
Remember their first time? She was a kid still. An arrogant kid. She went a long way to become Jo i liked so much. And i like her for that.

[identity profile] x5vale.livejournal.com 2012-06-21 09:27 am (UTC)(link)
I have liked her since day one. Since the spoilers actually.
Maybe because I saw the potential.

[identity profile] lisichechka.livejournal.com 2012-06-21 10:41 am (UTC)(link)
Might be. We all have our own priorities.
But what matter is she proved herself as being Dean's friend. A real friend.

[identity profile] x5vale.livejournal.com 2012-06-21 01:48 pm (UTC)(link)
Probably his only one. The one who never betrayed him.

[identity profile] lisichechka.livejournal.com 2012-06-21 06:26 pm (UTC)(link)
If to think of it yes she's the only one. Even Cas bertayed Dean one time (though i don't blame him cause he feels really guilty about it).

[identity profile] x5vale.livejournal.com 2012-06-22 08:34 am (UTC)(link)
Things with Castiel are a little bit more complicated and I want to know about what he feels guilty because, even though Dean has already forgiven him, I am not so sure I have :)

[identity profile] lisichechka.livejournal.com 2012-06-22 10:16 am (UTC)(link)
I'd LOVE to know about that! For me it's a very interesting theme to explore. I wish they'd pay more attention to it.
I think i forgave Cas already cause of what he said when he was Emmanuel. He's the only one (male) character who understands and values Dean.

[identity profile] x5vale.livejournal.com 2012-06-22 11:01 am (UTC)(link)
I agree that he understands and values Dean. No doubt about it. I just think that what he has done in S6 is as much disturbing as what Sam did in S4. They both chose themselves over Dean. To me this is the biggest betrayal a person can do in a relationship. I understand why they did it and I have dealt with my issues with Sam. I need to deal with mine with Castiel and this can't happen if teh show doesn't give me the real Castiel and gives me a fucked up Castiel.

[identity profile] lisichechka.livejournal.com 2012-06-22 02:07 pm (UTC)(link)
I agree that Cas betrayed Dean and that it was/is disturbing.
Only for me it's different from what sam did because of their reactions after that.
Cas knows he was wrong, he admitted it and felt sorry for it. He tried to do everything to fix it. He risked his own life to do that.
He still doesn't trust himself because of what he did cause he's afraid he may become powerful again.
The difference between what cas did and what sam did is their reaction to that and also how it was when they did it.
Sam was told not once that he was wrong but was arrogant enough to think he's right.
Cas wasn't around Dean at the time he betrayed him so he wasn't under Dean's influence much and Dean had no time to convince him he's wrong.
And after that i feel that Cas feels sorry not only cause what he did but also cause he betrayed his only friend.
I don't feel it with sam. He never said or admitted he's sorry for his betrayal of Dean.
That's why i can't forgive him and i doubt i ever will be able to do that.
And that's why i forgave Cas when Dean forgave him.

[identity profile] x5vale.livejournal.com 2012-06-26 12:06 pm (UTC)(link)
Well I think Sam did in his own way. He did say he was sorry and that he was wrong. Then we can discuss about the fact that his attitude wasn't coherent with his saying he was sorry.
I blame the writers. Castiel is written way more better than Sam, so I agree, he did something more than Sam in apologizing.

[identity profile] lisichechka.livejournal.com 2012-06-26 01:48 pm (UTC)(link)
The thing is i don't think it's only in the writing. I don't believe that the writers write for sam for 7 years and still don't know how to write him.
For me the problem lies with the acting too (or the lack of thereof). The same things sam said to Dean could be said with different emotions on his face and with different attitude and then the effect would be different too.
The thing is Misga is a better actor and seems understand his character way better than jp hence the difference between sam's and Cas' apologies.

[identity profile] x5vale.livejournal.com 2012-06-26 03:02 pm (UTC)(link)
I do think they know how to write him but they are not able to accomplish what they want, plus we have to accept that Sam is an unaffective character as Kripke himself decsribed him.

I agree that Jared is not good as Misha is in playing his character, but for me this is not enough. It's how they write the characters that makes the biggest difference for me.

Oh btw posted new Gaia pics.

[identity profile] lisichechka.livejournal.com 2012-06-26 07:59 pm (UTC)(link)
I saw her pics! She's adorable!!!

I'm not sure they really know what they want anymore. Maybe Kripke wanted sam to be all that and bag of cheaps but it never happened and the writers now have to accept it and go from there and stop pretending that sam is captain empathy. Without that this character is not necessary anymore. He played his part and there's nowhere they can explore him.
Otoh Dean... but that's the very different story :)

[identity profile] roselani24.livejournal.com 2012-07-03 06:13 am (UTC)(link)
I never cared for Dean and Jo as a couple, but I did enjoy the dynamic and the family vibe I got between them. And I certainly miss Jo too. Her character needed to be explored more, and so did Ellen. They are two characters I miss so much!

Lovely gifs of ghostJo with Dean when Dean says he 90% crap and is scared to know what the other 10% of him is. Oh my aching heart!

[identity profile] x5vale.livejournal.com 2012-07-04 10:26 am (UTC)(link)
Oh Dean...*sighs*

That's why Jo was so good for Dean imo. Because she liked him and could have loved him for who he was.